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New video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I4ZFpC6bbQ

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Just looked at the guest list for the London Comic Con and Robert Llewellyn, Danny-John-Jules, Chris Barrie and Hattie Hayridge are all down to attend. This should be interesting…

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Yep, or a reasonable facsimile.

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What if Rob Grant had not continued to sign the book after Last Human?

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Tiff?

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@Ridley: broadcasting on what, exactly?

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“This video contains content from BBC Worldwide, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.”

Bastards!

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Hey, no offense intended, and I know almost everyone gains weight as they get older (and Robert’s done remarkably well in that regard to keep it off) but I just keep noticing it every time he does the same pose.

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*Note, please refrain from posting comments about merging three opinions into one, thank you. This is a serious discussion.

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1) Opinion
2) Opinion
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COMBINED ACTION!!

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1) Opinion
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COMBINED ACTION!!

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Bump.

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Will we see any previously unseen tests for the proposed Ganymede and Titan Movie?

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Should I have continued reading this thread after continuing to read the should I have continued watching Red Dwarf with my partner after VII thread?

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Should I have continued reading this thread after continuing to read the should I have continued watching Red Dwarf with my partner after VII thread?

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To be fair, this is what Barrie was facing in Series 7 (look at how unhappy he is):

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To be fair, this is what Barrie was facing in Series 7 (look at how unhappy he is):

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> Depends what you think of jokes about receding hairlines, I suppose.

Either way Chris has been quite open about the fact, making reference to it in the recent documentary. You seem to be taking it a bit more personally than perhaps he would?

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So we’re just going to insult the guy because he publishes an article about Red Dwarf not being as good as it was (which is true, let’s face it), and call him every name under the sun? Any need to use such derogatory language ‘Me Own Stunts’?

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Help with a book project

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YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/red-dwarf/news/a837964/red-dwarf-star-chris-barrie-teases-brittas-empire-comeback/

https://www.list.co.uk/article/95547-chris-barrie-hints-at-the-brittas-empire-comeback/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4334445/the-brittas-empire-to-make-a-tv-comeback-as-the-cast-of-chris-barries-hit-sitcom-reunite-for-the-first-time-in-20-years/

https://www.beyondthejoke.co.uk/content/4434/news-brittas-empire-reunion

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Disregard this as I have now posted the topic.

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In Series 3, how was the Polymorph able to attach its sucker to Rimmer’s head, when he is a hologram and had no physical form?

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Well that was a pointless comment Seb, wasn’t it?

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Okay, I apologise.

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I wonder if this was the last Red Dwarf thing they shot specifically for BBC TV.

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Managed to find a promotional image from the shoot:

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Better quality version:

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So why wasn’t the whole thing included as an extra on the Series 8 DVD, Seb? I’m assuming they shot them both narrating the whole story and only used the small bit we saw.

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I wonder what the full clip of this looks like, and also why it wasn’t included on the DVD releases.

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Is this the only time Victor Meldrew, Ronnie Barker and Red Dwarf have all appeared together in the same clip?

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Backwards with a XI-style ending:

https://youtu.be/zihruo19QIE

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Is it bad that Series VIII has better production values than XI?

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Try this: https://youtu.be/GU3p1xyCZls

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The question is, have the cast compared their dicks with each others?

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Here’s a transcription of the comments made about the departure on Norman Lovett, taken from the Red Dwarf Bodysnatcher documentary in 2007.

Rob Grant: Nobody wanted Norman to go, including Norman I think.

Norman Lovett: I’d gone to Edinburgh, I’d met my wife and I decided to live in Edinburgh with her. I was also doing a series in Glasgow, I Lovett. I’d done two series of Don’t Miss Wax, two series of Red Dwarf, and I don’t know whether I saw it as a progression of saying “right I’ll do my own series now – two series of that perhaps”.

Paul Jackson: So he asked to be allowed to not come to rehearsal in London. He said “look. I’m in Edinburgh. I’ve got to come all the way down to London, then I go up to Manchester, then I go home. Quite frankly, I only sit on a stool (and) you don’t need me for camera rehearsals.” And I just felt that that was, I suppose there’s no other word than bad attitude. I mean maybe I was too picky at the time.

Doug Naylor: And the reason we wanted Norman at rehearsals is you need him around to test things on. You can’t show up and do ‘Queeg’ the day before, because it doesn’t give the writers a chance to see if the lines are working, or give you more. When you have someone like Norman who is funny, really funny, we’re kind of like comedy vampires, we’re able to suck humour out of just being around someone and seeing the way they drink a cup of tea, or his intonation the way he says the word yellow. If he’s not there you can’t do that.

Paul Jackson: And it’s just not fair to expect the actors to go into what is a technical environment in the studio. When you get into a studio you’re not rehearsing for the actors anymore. You spend a day or a day and a half sometimes literally blocking for sound and cameras and VT and costumes and so on. So if Norman had just been joining us at that point, the first time they’d have all performed the piece together would have been in front of the audience and I thought that wasn’t fair on anybody. So I said to Norman, “look, I don’t need you here all week but I do need you here for a day, two days” I can’t remember.

Norman Lovett: And they said “yeah, okay we can knock a day off, but we’re also going to knock quite a lot of the fee off”. And I said well I’m not doing it!”. I said I want the same as what they said they we’re going to pay me in the first place.

Paul Jackson: I think he thought that we would have no option, because he was Holly.

Norman Lovett: I think Paul Jackson was your typical producer. You know “I’m not putting up with this, get out of the show!”, you know. I think he made a big mistake by acting like that and not really thinking about it. It could have been resolved.

Craig Charles: I think Norman regrets his decision tremendously. And I regret his decision as well; because he was a much valued member of the crew and a lovely bloke and personal friend, and you kind of wish he’d done the whole journey with you.

Chris Barrie: But then maybe if you look at the two main players in that little scenario, then it was two fairly immovable beasts, really.

Doug Naylor: If it was me involved now, there’s no way he would have left. I would have put an arm round Paul and an arm round him and we would have gone into a room and we would have sorted it out.

Norman Lovett: And also they promised me that they would replace my part with a complete different character. So you never believe what they tell you, because Hattie played the part. So, they just lied to me basically.

Doug Naylor: Why would you go “Norman, you’re making this crazy decision to go off, but in deference to you, we are going to leave a special hallow piece of ground around the character so we’ll never come near that, because thank you for leaving and making this idiotic decision, but rest assured we will have someone completely different”. We would never do that, of course you wouldn’t. What you would say is “Norman, you’re mad, please come back”. And then he goes “no I’m not”, you go “okay, fine. That’s really sad. Thanks, bye.” And then you go, who you gonna get?

Hattie Hayridge: I kind of felt that was my normal type of thing. I didn’t feel I did it too much like Norman. I didn’t go out of my way to do it like Norman. It was just how Holly was.

Craig Charles: And Norman Lovett on the phone to me going “she’s robbing my act! She’s robbing my act, Craig! She’s robbing my act!”. “Why couldn’t she be someone else!? Why couldn’t she do it a different way!? She’s just being me!” Oh, Norman. It’s not my fault.

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Here’s the full interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xEE8I-EVFc

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27/28 inches?! Oh wait, that’s his age.

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Okay everybody, I am really sorry for posting these topics, please feel free to delete them.

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Corbin Sausage: So I take it you don’t want to see Chris Barrie’s bowling ball shiny, hairless head whilst you’re fucking him?

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Christ almighty. We’re in the middle of a sixth mass extinction event. Do we need a discussion about the merits of Red Dwarf XI right now?

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How dare you, Pete Part Three!

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Just noticed something very interesting. At 21:21 in the video, after discussing the episode Backwards, Norman says:

“Christ, you wait till these boys (pointing to Chris Barrie and Robert Llewellyn) are my age, they’ll have real trouble doing these Q&As, I tell you.”

Robert then begins shaking his head, with a very dismissive expression, saying “No we won’t” and rolling his eyes. He does not say this out loud, suggesting some tension between him and Norman.

What do you think?

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Extracts from the Gizmodo article:

Blast From the Past: Chris Barrie Attacks Red Dwarf In Newly Re-Emerged 1993 Interview

Red Dwarf is currently back on our screens for its 11th series – once again on Dave. And by all accounts, it appears that the Boys from the Dwarf are enjoying every moment of the show’s success. But it appears that it hasn’t always been that way, as a recently re-emerged interview with Rimmer actor Chris Barrie reveals. Giz UK has obtained a copy of the article – which as far as we can tell, hasn’t made its way online before.

It was November 1993 and the sixth series of the show had just wrapped. At the time Barrie spoke to Starburst magazine (which is still going today), about making the show – and in it, he revealed his discontent with the direction the show had taken. The mag quotes him as saying:

“As far as the actual character of Rimmer, I agree with some other journalists who said that in the latest series, and to some extend the fifth series, the character stopped developing and Red Dwarf became a visual effects show, with gags that existed and had been created in the third, fourth and part of the fifth series. In Rimmer’s case, he has become the butt of the jokes, and I really don’t think there’s a place for as just being ‘Mr Butt of the Jokes’. “Okay,” continues Barrie, “in every series of Red Dwarf, you get a lot of funny lines to say and that’s wonderful, but I think the entire cast will agree that we can return occasionally to the days of series two and three, like Marooned, for example, where we had long, interesting and funny dialogue about our characters and how they came about. People might say, ‘Oh, that’s revisiting the past’, but I still think that clever writing could explore them more, and get some very humorous material from that”.

It wasn’t just the direction his character was taking either – there were also passive aggressive scripts, by the sound of it:

“I remember one instance that was probably in week two or three, where earlier in the week I had voiced my opinion that, somewhere along the line, we were lacking in a degree of professionalism. In the script, one of Rimmer’s lines in the Starbug cockpit was, ‘Can we have a bit of professionalism, gentlemen?’ That’s a classic case, and that in my opinion is rather a sly to the point of being nasty, unnecessary kind of thing to put in. It’s lazy writing at best. I remember that example, because we all looked at each other and thought, ‘Hey, we can’t say a bloody sentence here without it going into the script!’”
The on-set tension Barrie implies here tallies with what fans may have suspected for some time. On some of the Red Dwarf DVD commentaries, Barrie and Craig Charles (Lister) refer to how a slight tension in their real-life relationship actually improved the on-set dynamic between odd-couple Rimmer and Lister, by making it more realistic.

The interview also reveals that Barrie thought the sixth series was weaker than previous – which is broadly in line with current fan opinion. In particularly, he wasn’t a fan of the introduction of a number of running gags. The mag describes:

“In many ways, I was surprised they kept those running gags going backwards and forwards,” he confesses. “I thought Rob and Doug wouldn’t have done that. I really thought they’d treat the Cat sayings and Space Corps Directives like gold; they would put them out sparingly, whereas when you get three or four a series, that’s not sparing as far as I’m concerned.

“When you get into running gags, that’s the sign in the kindest description of it, that a series is really working. An unkind description is that you’re really running low on new, original gags.”
Fast-forward 23 years though and the good news is that it appears that Barrie’s unhappiness with his role didn’t last. Though he took some time out during series 7 in 1997, he returned fully for series 8 in 1999 and has been an enthusiastic member of the Starbug crew in the post-2009 Dave revival of the series. But this surprisingly candid interview provides a fascinating insight into the show during its peak.

Update (13:25): Dannii from Chris Barrie Fans has been in touch – it appears that our source had taken the images from her website (this wasn’t made clear to us – and our pre-publication checks didn’t spot this). She was also able to add some interesting context: That the interview was published during a time in Barrie’s life when he was exhausted – as he was doing both Red Dwarf and The Brittas Empire simultaneously.

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Found this interesting article from September 2000:

Red Dwarf Call In Madonna For Film

Successful British TV sci-fi comedy RED DWARF is to be made into a Hollywood movie – with stars including MADONNA on board.

After three years of financial battles and studio wrangles, the BBC show’s creator DOUG NAYLOR has secured funds of $60 million (£40 million) to make the movie.

CRAIG CHARLES will take the lead role as rogue LISTER with the
TV cast of ROBERT LLEWELLYN, DANNY JOHN-JULES and CHRIS BARRIE joining him in space.

But to appeal to worldwide audiences, a number of big stars, like JACKIE CHAN and Madonna, will make cameo appearances in the film. Delighted Charles says, “It’s all sorted out, we can’t wait to go and do it. It’s taken a while because we had to wait for it to become a global hit, as at first people were saying, ‘How is a quaint British TV show going to be a hit in the cinema?’ “We’ve got a lot of American stars in it because we want to make it a hit – and to be honest it’s something we always wanted and some of our celebrity fans have spoken about.”

Comic Craig adds, “Jackie Chan’s in, he’s coming in to bash us up! He’ll only do a couple of scenes, but it’ll be a giggle. There are others, but I’m sworn to secrecy – but they are big names.

http://cinema.com/news/item/599/red-dwarf-call-in-madonna-for-film.phtml

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http://forums.winamp.com/archive/index.php/t-59644.html

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A post was made on the Winamp Forum on the 10 September 2001 about Red Dwarf by user Steve, who wrote:

Any body else watch that show? It’s the greatest SCI-FI SHOW EVER!

The discussion carried on into the following day, when Scarface2k1 replied:

“whats red dwarf?

i never herd of it. and i got cable :eek:”

Later that day the world changed.

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