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So this film is now Free to Prime members (sitting through 2 minutes of adverts first) in the UK. So I attempted to watch it…
Here’s a few words so you don’t have to suffer as much as I did!!  … It’s shit. Don’t bother.  
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But… If like me you happen to be a dwarf fan that’s a bit curious about what we all expected to be a trash B movie I think. Then read on perhaps. It’s 2 out 10 if it’s trying to be like things like Sean of the dead. It’s not a zombie movie, more a supernatural slasher tale its not even a Temu version of “Prey” it fails to be anything near Fargo or Twin peaks in it small US town law man narrative. It’s just too dam wacky, low budget, terrible acting, writing misguided at times, moronic comedy. 
Then Craig isn’t so bad in his scenes, as Old Joe a scouser who married a Native American woman who’s since passed on, so he has become a wind talker in her Traditions, sitting wisely whittling in his rocking chair. Barely appearing in first 40 minutes, he becomes a sarcastic reluctant hero in the films last half hour of its short 76 minutes (Still too long!) 
Craig gets an executive credit, and only really interacts with one actor, the sherif character, so you get a glimpse of a film that could have been a 4 out 10 spoof of things like cabin in the woods had they had more money or talent. 
Still curious, then Craig is in first 4 minutes* and short chair scenes at 19, 28 and 45 minute mark. But really skip the terrible side characters stuff and watch the wood show down with the films axe monster thing, as Old Joe & The Sherif survive in the wild from the 50 Minute mark.  
* Smile and think of Bodyswap. 
Leave the film in a Cherokee burial mound, never return.
















 

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I saw episode 2 on air first broadcast on television and I’ve pushed past fifty. Didn’t see an audience record though until Entangled. 

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So in the timeline where Kryten is chosen to be erased, The Inquisitor had also just erased useless John Warburton, and we end up seeing the shake down of the non event of the Mamet & Murray Wedding!! 

Thanks for the new head cannon. :-) 

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Do you think Rob minds that Doug’s idea is also a parallel reality prequel?

I wouldn’t personally be surprised IF its like this. What Rob has said of Titan is that its set on Titan before Lister is onboard Red Dwarf. So it has to be before The events of The End. Doug then thinking of what that means decides he would like to do alternate time line story that includes revisiting things right back to the very start of The End and possibly slightly before it in order to stake out exactly where the line that cant be crossed in rights actually is using a young craig charles lister performance character to do it.  Then the fence is even more clearly set than it currently is, with Doug having a bit of pre The End on board ship life to play with. 

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Yes, I think he is. He’s working on a Red Dwarf prequel and possibly more, and based on what’s been said he has the rights to that for a small number of future years, currently. Yes its been a couple of decades since he was commissioned to release Television, and a few years since his Radio work and Novels were released, but he’s in development work which may lead to something. There is always bluster of talking things up. I dont really want a Rob update until he has product. He’s not made any retirement statement to my knowledge. Good luck to him. 

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The hitch hikers book – about tv series scripts and rarities also fell to this mess of business bastards. With no updates yet on its survival. I don’t the blame author, or seek my lost money. Just want the future chance to buy it if ever finished 

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And the year before in the third year of the main show in 1986, executive script edited by Rob & Doug comes the Star Tek Sketch. 

“Its mission to go round and round until everyone knows each episode off by heart… 
new generations to wear silly ears at conventions.”

Oh 1984 Doug, if only you knew the world  2025 Doug would be regularly appearing in!!!!  

“According to tricorder There is life on this planet. Above the level of vegetables but below PE Teachers.” 
Turns out jokes can live long and prosper. 

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I had quite a few vhs box sets. So didn’t need DVD until Red Dwarf 1 came. Which is about the 5th year of DVDs being a thing. Nothing came out that was blu ray exclusive in my needs until the hitch hikers set, which i coveted and eventually got as late as 2020 when I moved in with my future wife who had a player in the house. Since then young ones & blackadder have joined my must have list on the format. But it’s more a format for film and quality buffs, not tv geeks that don’t mind streaming crappy vhs uploads etc, where it’s about seeing and hearing a joke or drama and not the amazement of pixels. I have almost zero vhs now and no player. The conversion of my dvd collection to Blu-ray is both impossible, expensive and mostly pointless. So it’s a select interest for a few other sets or films that might benefit me owning them on the format. Hence not needing to rush to get this dwarf box sets either. But I like it and one day more cheaply I might grab it. 

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Buy the box set and the audible audio and download from google play, prime or youtube as well just incase it’s all removed from iplayer, U, ITVX premium britbox  & 4!   When’s it coming to channel 27

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BTW. If you haven’t seen the part of the site. It’s 1,000 capacity.   /. 250 gold, 250 silver, 250 bronze, 150 standard weekend. With 50 standard day tickets. With presumably a few complimentary event people making up the last 50 in that total. 

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See you in Nottingham Si. I went for Bronze also.  

I am pretty happy as a fan who has already met & got the signatures of the main cast previously. My hope is for a signature of someone I’ve not met from the show before, and enjoying all the Q&A’s. That £120 will get me that at not much more than the last DJ I attended. I am getting old so I’m a bit less interested in the noisy drinking party night too, so will decide if that’s worth it, when announced later.  If it ends up being them selling Craig as a funk & soul night drawing some separate crowd. Again I’ve seen that a few times. So party on everyone. 

I applaud Doug for his involvement in this, I hope he gets some £ , five years on from his last TV contract. It does sound as if now uk tv are going to scrap the storage cost of some of the Dave era stuff they kept. He may be using this auction and event to keep that stuff out of skips and liquidate, create revenue, push  it into the hands of the kind of fans who can afford to treasure it so it’s preserved. I feel it’s time for that moment. It may even help something in the future. Those who can’t afford to buy will get to see some of this stuff as a  bow at this event and a bit more. 

I’m thankful there is an event, and a range of entry prices. Five years on from any DJ activity. 

That said, this appearing two streets away from

The last Dimension Jump venue and loudly proclaiming its “first” or “official ness” has definitely drawn the attention of a lot of old school fan crowd , the culture shock of Em-corp-con-ifacatiom. Both organisers and fans have been proclaiming at length “It’s not DJ” . This culture shock is palatable still.  It’s possibly one last tribute to everyone who made dimension jump so affordable and special & inclusive for decades. Look at the missing quiz, game show, all fans together feeling, the sheer brilliance of their agreements and all for one price promise. It was all Legendary: Yes this Clearly isn’t DJ!!!!  It’s a world away from that . At nearly five times the cost top level it doesn’t fully match what even the last DJ was let alone the most legendary ones: 

Anyone ranting that is totally valid dashing of expectations. We as fans used to criticise DJ also after all, sometimes it deserved it and some times it didn’t. We watch a show where shouting “Smeg” is what we do. This smegging ain’t DJ & there is no DJ. That’s where we are at. Rant on fans. Good luck Official Convention.  See you in Notts

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In perhaps a tad premature statement given the announced guests so far, The What’s On page says that you can “Get your favorite Red Dwarf merchandise signed by Chris Barrie (Rimmer), Craig Charles (Lister), Danny John-Jules (The Cat), and Robert Llewellyn (Kryten)”

That whole page is placeholder text from the website design stage.   There is 1 guest described as Headliner elsewhere so I think that’s likely Craig yeah, but wait and see. 

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“Someone set up a change.org petition to revive red dwarf? and Doug (or Doug’s agents) has told them not to? and they didn’t understand the subtlety of the message and kept it up?”

Yes. It’s hard isn’t it. This happens often in my music world, people petitioning to get Madness a Brit Award. Without the understanding of how things work within an industry, just the idea that people power is just and only a question of being a few clicks away, when not everything is a public poll like a big brother phone in.  I saw it an eye rolled too, because there is money being taken to promote the page etc. No one doubts that the fan or fans involved are right along with us, the collective that would like what the cast and Doug want, which is this next special to happen. But we just know this kind of drum banging will peter out. It was the contribution to promote that changed my goodwill on this.  Other than that, it’s nice to show fans still care. I thought Dougs message was the best kind of Polite response. 

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And as your saying multiple turns are allowed. I’m saving Baxter also. Saw Ricky as a stand up when i was a 90s student he’s great, and he’s in Black Books. Baxter is a recurring character in series 8. He is probably the dwarfer who comes after Mac and Tony Hawks as recurring. (and that voice bloke in 12) 

MP Thornton

Doc Newton

Doctor

Panel Woman Officer

Second Woman Officer

Last Woman Officer

First Ground Controller

Second Ground Controller

Guard (Cassandra)

Mex

Young Kochanski

Young Cat

Talia

Big Meat

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I can’t not save Knot.    Shend is a “small role in things” legend. He’s in loads of great stuff. Including being a band member in Knowing Me Knowing you with Alan Partridge. His Red Dwarf death is great, love it.    

MP Thornton

Doc Newton

Doctor

Panel Woman Officer

Second Woman Officer

Last Woman Officer

First Ground Controller

Second Ground Controller

Guard (Cassandra)

Mex

Young Kochanski

Young Cat

Baxter

Talia

Big Meat

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A Save for Krysis is a save for the whole universe.

I’m weeping for Entangled. Saw the best of it recorded live.

So that’s a lose for Jeremy Beadles Shower Porn VHS.

Next round…

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Just so Dr Who fans don’t feel left out…

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Here’s the full double page spread where king John is imagining the scene that a mad Gary the guard has proclaimed “The aliens are coming” you’ll spot more familiar characters. & The pose’ are flying in in Starbug. 

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I’m saving The Clitoris 

Ouroboros

Back in the Red Part 3

Lemons

Timewave

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I’m liking this talk of something live for the 40th. 

When red dwarf live was previously a topic I used to fantasise something as meta as Still Game live at the hydro was, where characters talk to the audience but still carry on a full believable narrative world you care about with full sets and actions. Plays to 20,000 people a night. 

Now it’s later. I’m envisaging something much nearer to the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy radio show  live tour. Script reading with some minor staging and props and hats. Something much nearer the cost effective celebration of the recent fast show live tour. Age appropriate and not over stretching show legacy. Each actor comes on stage as themselves for a chat about making the show and its inspirations before donning a costume for a short greatest hit sketch moment. More arrive as the evening goes on until it’s an ensemble musical finish & bow. Plays to multiple touring theatres of a few Thousand. Without old actors having to stumble too much. A worthy cash injection late in life and warm nostalgia for an aged audience a lot of which will have never made it to a sci fi convention talk.  Still more character stuff than you ever get in an informal chat Q&A.

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There’s nothing wrong with a new Doug novel continuing from not Last Human, but from The promised land. Or indeed a movie novel existing between Only the Good and Back to Earth. Even if it reuses anything from the beginning!!  In my opinion. 

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Looks like some quality creative stagnation.

What the show that two episodes in has new creatures, and is only copying the ship to match timeline setting before being set on “Earth”. Dont think so.

Where all the characters are from Peter pan…. oh right yeah, ^ what he said, a bit, yeah. 

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Really enjoying it. 


Please tell me that there will be a behind the scenes video where Adrian Edmondson is seen to twat a fully grown xenomorph in it’s long bonce with a frying pan, and then Michael Smiley will do the tyres dance in the background in celebration of it’s downfall, before walking off into the atmospheric crash smoke.

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Marengo – The vending machine also says it.

Arent you thinking of Trout ala Creme there?

No your spot on. So its a one episode twice said word.

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Marengo – The vending machine also says it.

Arent you thinking of Trout ala Creme there?

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Got one  “Jumbo”

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i can match your 2 for “Belgium”

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I didnt get Marigold with blue at all, my wrong guess was kryen talking to kochanski in series VII. I might be going fan on a computer senile. I hope i can still type here in future. i used to know my stuff on red dwarf, I’ve spent too long watching other shows since 2020. 

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I’m very much looking forward to the first EVER official Red Dwarf convention, that has official permission to officially be the official one, and the first official one. As say opposed to those things the fan club did, the official fan club that officially had permission to be an official fan club officially, that one, and they ran a fan club convention or 20ish as that official fan club doing a convention but was just an event for fans, not like an official convention like this o££icial convention that will be attended by fans, but officially now. 

It reminds me of those first ever Moon Landings(c) that Musk-Inc did. Remember them? They were the first ever OFFICIAL Moon Landings(c). Some bloke called Neil did pop up there in the 60’s but just cus he was a fan of rock collecting, nothing official there. But the Musk one’s that Disney sponsored and said they were Series 1 of the Moon Landings(c). Those ones. There were Official. I’m sure this will be great like those. Sounds good, hey it’s always fun to hang out in outterspace. Especially with people who like me, I know, and have never officially hung out in Nottingham before talking about Red Dwarf, except those who have, but unofficially.  Well. I genuinely wish it well if TORDFC seem to have donated all their Tamsin Archer CD’s to the moonlit oxfam now.

Here’s to beers, telly banter and more. (& In my old fan heart. Apollo XX i still love you)

 

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https://www.ha.com/c/search/results.zx?term=red+dwarf&ic=homepage-search-A-K-071316

A Starbug, Tikka to ride helmet, back to reality costume bits and krytie gold suit are up for auction and more currently here … 

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All of it. (Almost).  Among the great episodes of Red Dwarf that I like.Which is most of them. (Almost) (Not Duct Soup)

It gave me a real fun weekend watching 3 new promising episodes of my favourite show back after nearly ten years in the wilderness. A weekend of Event TV that I enjoyed at home on a big projector TV, alongside the great G&T reaction coverage. Enjoying online fandom alongside the broadcast show for the first time.  Although the early Tomato onboard ship stuff felt drawn out and lacking atmosphere to the point i was scared the show wasnt funny like series VII extended feel, this turned as kryten and the cat brought in more story and energy and things took off. It was then a hilarious and thrilling ride. It was surprising the meta stuff, although we knew a little from advance leaks, my worries faded and i was thrilled by the story and accepted the blade runner parody angle, some of which i got on first viewing and some i didnt. I wasnt surprised it was a sequel to Back to Reality, that seemed clear to me, and it was well justified given the place in the public consciousness that both the show and craig as a rehabed soap actor was. I thought it was a triumphant return and all the more impressive when i discovered how it was done on favours and a clip show budget. It was a digital ratings triumph and an investment by doug in getting us to X XI XII and TPL all of which bring greater returns to it’s suceess.  I still see it that way.   I am aware that fans coming later to it as an experience or were already wanting something different from Dwarf, Including those who like X-TPL, have turned to story into the fact it was one of the worse parts of the shows history. It never was to me. It was always superior to the worst moments of VII or VIII and even more fun than a couple of the classic era’s slower ones for a rewatch.  I watched the directors cut as much as any era of the show on loop many a night in my single days in my flat. I’ts a brilliant little red dwarf movie closest to tennant era dr who vibe of a show, but mostly better. 

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As explained already above.     Studio Pre record days happen for big things with FX which are then played in on monitors for an audience to react to.  For things not ready yet they show pre visualisation versions scene’s for models etc often like that. I saw Entangled recorded and some fx like the fire from a kebab are possible in front of an audience. The warm up man explains any missing context of little things in advance of scenes. Most FX’s stuff is action rather than comedy so it’s often not any issue to fake a version.  One scene the cast read only on that day for Entangled because a set wasnt available so we were genuinely laughing at the lines and how the cast would say them but not seeing the actual scene recorded. Then because the ending of Entangled wasnt written in full yet and the actress not available for a late cast role   we just get sent home with out and ending!  Still very happy to have seen Dwarf in action in the studio. I saw Cured also on the day of studio recording and it’s a lot of fun watching Kevin Eldon pretend his gun will work like it will in the show, when it clearly doesn’t infront of an audience. The power of acting then acting up out of the take!

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I like Marvel Movies, and people on youtube have done videos of timelines breaking it down into ancient history and modern and future events like you’ve done, and you’ve taken the same academic approach here, well done. The result I just adore how dam silly it is reading it in this format by comparison. It’s a delight. Stupid, Trivial and bizarre and you also knew going in that it would make no twisted sense of contradiction at times what so ever, with resets and timelines. So extra well done for not becoming as mad as Rameses Niblick the forty third, whoops my thribble was behind the fridge all this time. Now include the books and smegazines before you are 60.

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Based on how Doug talks about the experience of making the American pilot and being chastised by other production personnel as “the wave… (Of Negativity)”, I’ve always thought that California culture shock was at the heart of Timewave, then applied to the wider world of anti-critique. There is a little bit of roller skate and Americana diner LA cliché visible within timewaves production choices, (a production that was also due to budget-issues full of reused costumes. Things notably from “Spaced” and the film “Absolutely Anything” which further confuse the written target). Two dudes from Manchester in the 90’s may have rolled eyes at a lot of their experience in stateside TV production, from jet lag to because it wasnt going well.  

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IRL Scene… & I’m glad they’re dead

Ah you didn’t stay for the credits then. Don’t blame you. 

Then Mrs Flood came out to reiterate the series arc for the 700th time.

With the amount the show borrows from things Red Dwarf used to do I’m just hoping she’s not a psiren at this double series arc that doesn’t move forward at all stage!!  She was not real in Eastenders the other week, does she actually exist?  

I do enjoy the show still, I am liking the pantheon linked villains arc more than Mrs Flood stuff. That’s done through all 3 runs of RTD2 thus far. I wouldn’t even mind a sea god in the spin off next year. But I approach the show differently these days cus I’m old and I’ve just seen so much of it. This felt like Idiot Lantern 2, which is fine. 

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Back to Earth, Mugs Murphy, Back In the Red plasticine bit they all want a word with you Doctor. (And Gremains 2 & the end bit of Inglorious B*steeds are in the queue & all)

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Fathers & Suns (23:31)
There was some debate recently about how literally to take this title for an episode featuring only one father and one sun, respectively.

Oh, don’t you start. They have this discussion in the Doctor Who community around Pyramids of Mars lying about how many conic polyhedrons are actually present on the surface of Sol 4 (i.e. not enough to be referred to in plural).

They’ve got a points ;-)

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Yeah.   

That’s such an utterly truly exhaustive microscopic magnifying glass approach of an anal dissection of red dwarf trivia born out in full concept carried through to the nth degree that it really should be promoted to main page guest article. Seeing it sitting here in the forum like this is an insult to people like me who will not only read it in full, and disagree in some minor way before pointing out something like “Hey you missed out Can’t Smeg Won’t Smeg”, but will end up throwing a half toasted croissant at you demanding you analyse Back In The Red/Back To Earth episodically.

Well done. I enjoyed it. I have a job and I’m semi not doing it so I can read this.   

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There was always some irreverent humour in Doctor Who. Not least of which was Douglas Adams era comedy sci fi pioneering.  But when new who arrived, it clearly arrived in a TV land scape where Red Dwarf had taught an audience and writers shorthand comedy exposition. Swirly Thing Alert, begat Timey Whimey.  Shame Rob Or Doug never got to write an episode. 

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It’s done really well with 20 years of fun. Indeed the 60+ years Is also a phenomenal achievement also. The new show …. I’ve just recently shown Matt Smith’s whole era to my wife who was a watcher who gave Tennant a go with her children when they were growing into Teenage years, but originally switched off when smith arrived. We enjoyed it immensely even though i had struggled with the impossible astronaut story season’s convoluted layered cleverness when i watched it with my dad on original airing weekly. It’s probably my favourite era, though i think my wife lost interest again towards the regeneration. Being a fan of Moffat’s other work perhaps makes me lean into that. I also adore some of Douglas adams work on Tom Bakers Era for similar reasons and collected those classic stories first when getting the classic show on DVD. We also rewatched Tennant and Tate before the 60th revival of that era, and enjoyed all that more. The current guy I cant spell is great in the role, I dont think i’ve ever disliked an actor in the role. I’ve disliked companions some times, or more likely just found some to be characterless devices for the plot. I’ve Definately disliked and loved the writers off and on.  I might be in the minority of loving “love and monsters” im in a majority of loving “Blink”.  Sunspending disbelief for muppet vultures aside, I adore Sarah Janes Mat Smith episode Death of the Doctor and seeing it at the BFI with Liz Sladen probably helps. I adore Mcgan’s night of the doctor and the whole 50th. I’m one of the old farts resistant to the cop of timeless child attempt at similar law twisting. I’m fine that Jodie’s Era and the current one aren’t really aimed at me a fair chunk of the time, but I liked the spooky frog one and 73 yards. Tales of the Tardis was great for the 60th beyond and i’ve seen some great AI representations for missing old who lately, which has been thrilling. All of RTD 1 was great, I struggled a bit towards the end of Moffat because of how stories would jump around a lot. Chibnall era, despite my loving Broadchurch, didnt deliver for me, but i felt the look was great and the show was better than RTD or moffat spin offs. The current era, which i call volume 3, still beats with two hearts and im looking forward to series 2 but i cant see me rewatching anything much beyond capaldi era multiple times like i used to. It’s an amazing show. I think a lot of people take far too seriously and far too protective over. I mean it’s not Red Dwarf.   

 

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So how much does exist? Are there more storyboards?
Yes, you can see some examples in the TOS archive.
https://reddwarf.co.uk/news/2001/03/30/movie-storyboards/
https://reddwarf.co.uk/news/2001/10/12/cryo-chamber-storyboards/
https://reddwarf.co.uk/news/2002/01/11/ships-storyboards/
There’s also this concept art:
https://www.reddwarfprops.com/red-dwarf-movie-concept-art/

Ah Yes thats the ones, Thanks. 

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Werent these on the official website in 2002ish?  I’ve seen the Hogey one before, because i saw it before The Beginning aired. 

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I have the 5 track version you talk about, It came free with the paperback of the book. It was also a TV show called the same name. The full album either was a TV tie in or something maybe he sold on his website maybe.

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And the whole potential question of cast changes does explain even further why episode 6 was so late written. 

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The second half of the book is long interviews, and I’ve read as far as Chris, Craig & Danny. 

 

Some of the DVD documentaries for Red Dwarf can be quite candid about production frustrations to full on nightmares & disasters. But those documentaries happened a decade or so after events. 

These book interviews are bitchy about various troubles and issues and are conducted during actual production on series VI. While no one is savaged directly in them, lots of gripes are aired. It’s totally news to me that The Cat  could have been written out of the show at this time when Red Dwarf & Holly were moved on from. Pay and budgets and organisation of the shots, actors feelings about repeating themselves etc all come to the surface, as they all fight for their characters and want more and better from various aspects.

This book earns its “chaos” title word by highlighting so many factors of where people’s opinions were ruffled about things. For sure they are tired from work when saying all this. (I was aware Chris had bitched in other sci fi magazines at this era)

I can see now why this candid approach wasn’t the book GNP wanted in the 90s. I don’t blame them. As a fan I don’t think I would have wanted a bitchy book out that close to transmission. I wasn’t ready to see the cracks behind the scenes of a show I loved so deeply. 

In these pages I don’t see a world where a – “What If” – united Rob & Doug could have carried on into series VIII together the following year, without time and money to sort a lot of things and longer time to come up with joint scripts that didn’t retread older episodes like VI did. 

It was frustrating as a fan, at the time that Red Dwarf VII was over a three year wait. But it feels inevitable reading this that a gap had to happen if a new series or chapter Was ever to be possible. 

 

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Page 119 quotes Rob on the set of Emohawk joking to Craig that there will be. Lister-Rimmer kiss in episode six of VI.

So… Rob wrote a bit of Blue for VII. Sort of. 

We can poke a tiny bit more scorn at those people who post “Rob was the funny one” when they watch and didn’t like VII. 

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I’m really enjoying the book. Re-reading the old book as well alongside it.  It starts by referencing the film “Almost Famous” which I love too, about a young writer wanting freedom in their writing style. 

It’s great to read this extensively about series VI in 2025. I do think I understand why Rob & Doug would have wanted a making of book to be edited down from this longer notes & interviews presented here. It’s too long and dull for a more general audience so they were aiming for a more glossy concise coffee table book of the times, rather than a beat by beat account of hanging around all of series VI. I’ve not found any huge controversy in it yet, but there are a few small comments they might have wanted to protect people from at a time when they were still actively making dwarf. We know from some of the DVD documentaries that Doug at least never shied away from more controversial topics about troubles in making of’s. At this distance of time, after the first published book was a sucess, it’s a wonderful double deeper dip.  I find myself reading short interviews with Clare CP Grogan and Anita Dobson. and im transported to the set because my imagination knows what all these deleted and behind the scenes moments look like from the DVD extras world etc. So as a result im imagining new takes, Smeg ups and on set tom foolery as if im there. 

It is amusing that the writer seems to spot things fans might have said, about rimmers costume or the appendix etc.

SPOILERS:  From the writers Interview.  Talk of an episode idea about parasites, I wonder if this went into Epideme? and mind editing – sounds very like they could have written eternal sunshine of the spotless mind a decade earlier as a sitcom, but then they kind of had done in thanks for the memory in a different way before. 

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Stephen that made me chuckle the most yet in this thread. Thank you.

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