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  • in reply to: The “Programme Guide” books #261889
    Nick R
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    I’m most familiar with the Red Dwarf Night compilation, though I did get to see the VHS Ups and Outs at least once when my friend lent them to me.

    I was never sure what the Programme Guide authors had against them either.

    I think I’m right in saying that every single outtake made it on to the main DVD releases eventually. There was a small number (like two or three) that were accidentally omitted from the series-by-series compilations, but they were included on The Bodysnatcher Collection as easter eggs.

    Was the outtake of Robert Bathurst from The End one of these? I remember the fan speculation was that the reason it didn’t appear on the Series 1 DVD was because he didn’t authorise it; was the real reason just that it was omitted by mistake? Was it intact on Just The Smegs?

    I found this thread from 2018, where Pete Part Three says that the Todhunter outtake turned up on Bodysnatcher, and then makes an AMAZING pun a few posts later:

    Camille Question

    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261588
    Nick R
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    Three separate opinions One opinion (but why though?)

    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261578
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    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261576
    Nick R
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    Lister’s appendix Lister’s appendix

    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261574
    Nick R
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    Telephoning my lawyer Laughing

    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261573
    Nick R
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    Blue light bulb Red light bulb

    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261561
    Nick R
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    Marooned Space Corps Survival Manual

    Instrumental opening theme Opening theme with hidden vocals

    in reply to: Interchangeable Episode Titles #261481
    Nick R
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    Psirens Me²

    Ah, I was thinking of that one as I read through this thread – then I saw that you beat me to it!

    Polymorph Demons & Angels – because the emotion draining brings out better or worse sides of the characters.

    Meltdown Legion – because it’s about armies, and a Roman is involved.

    Future Echoes Timeslides

    in reply to: Red Dwarf VIII is flawed #260160
    Nick R
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    I don’t think the thread should end yet – not while we’ve still got more constructive criticism.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf VIII is flawed #260155
    Nick R
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    ERECTION.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf VIII is flawed #260137
    Nick R
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    A superlative suggestion, sir, with just two minor floors.

    in reply to: Aspect Ratios #259966
    Nick R
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    I never really thought enough about how much Dr Who’s ’05 series was aimed toward easing “regular people” (ie non sci fi fans) into getting into a sci-fi show.

    Yeah, I watched the 1996 TV movie for the first time recently, and it’s really interesting to compare it to Rose, and how many the things RTD did differently to make it easier for an unfamiliar audience to get into it:

    • The TV movie begins with an infodump voiceover. Presumably the intention was to reassure old fans that this was a continuation, while doing what the original Star Wars opening crawl did: namedropping several strange SF names in quick succession that new viewers would hopefully find tantalising and intriguing. But in reality, I bet it put off a lot of people who were not already predisposed to like sci-fi.
    • TV movie: presented mainly from the Doctor’s POV. Rose: presented from the companion’s POV.
    • TV movie: starts off with the last Doctor’s last moments. Rose: clean start with a new Doctor.
    in reply to: Aspect Ratios #259932
    Nick R
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    I just looked it up and apparently Doctor Who was shot and edited in 16:9 from 2005 (but framed so that everything would work in 4:3), but wasn’t HD until 2009. Which is interesting, I guess. No idea if they broadcast it in 16:9, probably?

    In the UK, I think it was broadcast in 16:9 on digital SD channels, but on analogue SD channels it was in the slightly cropped compromise format of 14:9.

    In my experience, there seems to be a difference between the UK and North America when it comes to how people talk about aspect ratios and resolutions. I often see Americans/Canadians treating “widescreen” and “HD” as interchangeable terms.

    I think this happened because in the UK, 16:9 standard def CRTs (and 14:9 and 16:9 widescreen broadcasts) were common for several years before the switch to HD broadcasts, HD consoles (360/PS3), and flat-panel LCDs/plasmas. So long-running British TV series often made two switches: first to SD widescreen, then to HD widescreen years later. (e.g. HIGNFY, which switched to widescreen in 1999 and to HD in 2009.)

    In America on the other hand, widescreen SD CRTs were not common, and a TV series often switched to widescreen at the same time as it switched to HD. Also, I think pan-and-scan fullscreen 4:3 DVDs continued to be released in Region 1 long after they’d stopped in the UK. So I think that contributed to a perception in America that widescreen TV wasn’t a thing before HDTV.

    in reply to: The John Belushi Conundrum #259226
    Nick R
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    Lister – John Leguizamo and a bit of an odd one but could be interesting Luis Guzman (I had a hard time with this one as no actors came to mind)

    Well they both had their own statues.

    in reply to: Almost XIII news #259058
    Nick R
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    Some quotes from Chris Barrie in the Radio Times, as promotion for The Promised Land’s home release:

    https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2020-06-09/chris-barrie-red-dwarf-exit/

    The article focuses on his limited participation in Red Dwarf VII (and they get the episode count wrong: “appeared in just a handful of Red Dwarf VII’s six episodes”). But at the end he does say something about doing more:

    “I don’t really like to think about regrets,” he said. “I look back and think, ‘It was right at the time’. I’d just done a Brittas Empire series before it and kind of the last thing I wanted to do was go back in a television studio.”

    He explained: “The Brittas Empire… any sitcom situation like that where you’re playing quite a reasonable sized part is always a fairly stressful sort of… it’s condensed, very hard work. I knew that Red Dwarf was always going to be pretty hard work [as well] and I just thought, ‘I can’t do this now’.”

    Having taken a break, Barrie has remained on Red Dwarf as a regular ever since and says he’s now keen to keep Rimmer for as long as possible.

    “There’s only Red Dwarf really that I want to do [now] so I’ll keep doing it for as long as I can!” he insisted.

    Barrie also dropped hints as to Red Dwarf’s future, revealing that “there’s something” in the works following the ratings success of feature-length special The Promised Land.

    There you have it: “’there’s something’ in the works”. Red Dwarf XIII confirmed.

    in reply to: Christopher Nolan saw Red Dwarf #258844
    Nick R
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    But I’ve never really been interested in anything that’s done in one take, I just think… well done? It becomes more about wanking off the director for being really clever than what’s actually going to propel the story or the action forward.

    I don’t really think of Nolan as being a director who tries to impress us for doing things in one take. Yeah he tries to impress us by doing things physically, like strapping IMAX cameras to Spitfires, and doing The Dark Knight’s lorry flip and Inception’s rotating corridor as full-size effects. But that’s something different from showing off by doing long take action scenes. (In fact Nolan’s action often receives criticism for chopping around too much.)

    I’m a sucker for a one-take action sequence. Movie action is usually about two things: tension for seeing if/how the heroes will survive; and impressing the audience by indulgently showing off stunts, choreography, VFX (and sometimes animation). Long takes aren’t necessarily any better at the former, but they’re perfect for the latter. The one shot gunfight in Hard-Boiled always impresses me (even though when it comes to John Woo films, The Killer is a better final shootout and a better film as a whole). And the one in Tom Yum Goong/The Protector is also a triumph of co-ordination between cast and crew. I’m also willing to go along with long takes that are faked by being stitched together, like the one at the start of The Villainess.

    For examples of long takes that are effective for story purposes, I’d point to the one at the start of Serenity (2005), because as well as introducing all the characters (something that could indeed have been accomplished in multiple shots), it’s also a really efficient way of introducing the layout and scale of the ship (which would have taken much longer if if it had been split up into multiple shots). That was useful for me as I saw the film before I saw the Firefly TV series.

    I love Hitchcock’s Rope as well: yeah, it’s showing off, but I like seeing the occasional formal exercise like that. I’m less keen on Birdman. I haven’t seen 1917.

    in reply to: new Doctor Who scene ahead of Day of the Doctor rewatch #258176
    Nick R
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    in reply to: new Doctor Who scene ahead of Day of the Doctor rewatch #258175
    Nick R
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    I’m guessing Osgood, since she was in Day of the Doctor and wouldn’t need an elaborate costume or make-up.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257951
    Nick R
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    Thanks! How appropriately timey-wimey.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257944
    Nick R
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    In the heartfelt conversation between Graham and Yaz, I couldn’t help myself filling in the blank:

    Graham: “You ain’t got a time machine… or a sonic…”

    Me: “Or a character…”

    It may be due to my high tolerance for expository infodumps, but I didn’t hate the finale. At least, I didn’t dislike it anywhere near as much as Elizabeth Sandifer and her commenters. Earlier in this topic some Star Wars comparisons were posted, but nothing that compares to “Finally, we can all see what The Rise of Skywalker would have looked like on a shitty BBC budget.” Wow, don’t pull your punches – that’s harsh!

    I’m not keen on making the Doctor the origin of all regenerations on Gallifrey, and as people have pointed out, it definitely didn’t live up to the Master’s claims of how devastating the news would be (though I suppose it provides motivation for the Master’s renewed hatred of the Doctor). But I don’t think it’ll permanently damage/break the show as some of the critics are saying. I don’t mind the revelation that the Doctor had pre-Hartnell regenerations – even ones in which they acted as a morally questionable Gallifreyan secret agent, doing things of which a modern Doctor would not approve.

    It might be beneficial: as with John Hurt, the introduction of previously unseen regenerations could give us a chance to see how other actors might play other versions of the Doctor in one-off events, without those actors needing to commit to doing a full series. I suppose that option was always available to them – but until now, one-off guest star regenerations had to be from some unspecified time in the future, as with Tom Baker’s Curator, and what The Next Doctor initially looked like it was going to do.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257945
    Nick R
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    I wrote a post but I think it got eaten by the spam filter. Probably because I put three links in it.

    in reply to: Star Trek: Picard #257713
    Nick R
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    So far I’ve been enjoying the bits of this focused on Picard; less so the Borg Cube sections; least of all the SECRET BADDIES CONSPIRACY stuff.

    But as Dave says above, episode 4 killed a lot of the momentum. Hopefully Space Legolas’s resemblance to, er, Legolas will become less distracting as the series goes on.

    in reply to: M-Corp on Wikipedia #257606
    Nick R
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    Judging by the current version of the Samsara article, User:Polyamorph doesn’t think the episode is notable enough to have an article of its own. :(

    in reply to: real world cultural references in the series #257503
    Nick R
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    In addition to the link clem posted, there’s also Ridley’s Letterboxd list of all the films referenced in Red Dwarf:

    https://letterboxd.com/ridley/list/the-red-dwarf-filmography/detail/

    in reply to: Red Dwarf Script I've Written. #257476
    Nick R
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    Better than Timewave/10

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257315
    Nick R
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    When Ruth said that she moved to Gloucester in December 1999, it reminded me that the 1996 TV movie (which I’ve never seen) was was a Master story set around the 1999-2000 New Year. I wonder if there will end up being some connection to that?

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257295
    Nick R
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    I was expecting an entertaining but insubstantial rehash of “Smith and Jones” (humans get caught up in the Judoon’s pursuit of a monster of the week), and the first part of the episode seemed to be going that way. I’m please that it turned out to be something a lot more interesting!

    (That time period had to be a lot longer than 4 minutes and 30 seconds, though.)

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257168
    Nick R
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    This was shaping up to be probably my favourite historical figure episode since Vincent and the Doctor… until the Scorpion Queen alien showed up. Even so, it’s definitely one of the strongest episodes of the Chibnall era so far.

    Once the aliens were revealed, I struggled to buy the central idea that a spacefaring alien species would think that Tesla would be of any use to them at all as an engineer. (I’m sure I’ve been bothered by this in earlier stories a historical scientist or artist has been vital to a Doctor Who alien’s plan, though I struggle to think of any specifics.)

    But I liked the way the episode contrasted Tesla’s mind for innovation against the aliens’ status as scavengers who don’t invent anything (therefore paralleling the aliens with the popular, but simplified, depiction of Edison as a credit/patent thief).

    Was anyone else distracted by the fact that Tesla, his assistant Dorothy Skeritt, and Edison were allowed to retain knowledge of their adventures, whereas just two episodes ago Ada Lovelace and Noor Inayat Khan had to have their memories wiped? The norm is for Doctor Who to handle it the way this episode did, and so I usually accept it. But because the Spyfall episode aired so recently, the difference jumped out at me – and unfortunately it came across as if the famous men were allowed to keep their memories, but the famous women weren’t.

    I’ve seen people justify it by saying that in Spyfall, Lovelace and Khan had time travelled, whereas Tesla, Skeritt and Edison had not. But I’m not sure I accept that late-19th century inventors knowing about a teleporting phone box and the existence of aliens would be any less disruptive to history than an early-19th century mathematician knowing about WW2.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #256899
    Nick R
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    One of the biggest things that stuck out to me this first episode was that they’ve clearly been paying attention to the complaints that Yaz got too little to do.

    Based on the trailers, Chibnall seems to have done a complete 180 on his stance from the previous series, of wanting this show to establish its own identity without having to rely on old monsters and the like.

    The scene where O talks to Graham about his bookshelf of notes on the Doctor also suggested to me that this series is going to get more involved with linking to the past. Looking forward to seeing how the companions react to learning about Gallifrey and the Doctor’s previous faces!

    To me, the Doctor Who episode ISN’T a “spy pastiche/parody”, as some people are claiming, it’s just an episode that uses such iconography and a couple of gags relating to that.

    The episode’s music – at least in the tuxedo scenes – can definitely be described as a John Barry pastiche, though.

    in reply to: New Sonic Trailer #256614
    Nick R
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    Gotta load fast

    Nick R
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    2 Back 2 Earth

    in reply to: New Sonic Trailer #256402
    Nick R
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    Hmmm, the Red Dwarf opening theme would be pretty well-suited to Jun Senoue’s style of widdly guitaring.

    But what I’d really be interested to hear is a version of the Red Dwarf theme arranged by Hideki Naganuma…

    in reply to: Top of the 2010s #256141
    Nick R
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    That’d be a double cheat, as they came out in 2009.

    Ben could be referring to the Sgt Pepper, White Album and Abbey Road anniversary remixes instead of the 2009 remasters?

    in reply to: Top of the 2010s #255967
    Nick R
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    To get it back onto the rails again:

    TOP THREE RED DWARF SERIES:

    XI
    X
    XII

    in reply to: Aspect Ratios #255859
    Nick R
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    Apparently in the US the 16:9 versions were the only options on FXX and the Simpsons World app, until people complained so much that they put up the 4:3 versions as well. People assumed that this correction would be carried forward to Disney+, but WHOOPS, guess that would have been too much work.

    ILM’s Todd Vaziri did a Twitter thread in September saying that the FXX app on Apple TV used to have the option for 4:3 versions and commentaries, but they were removed in a software update: https://twitter.com/tvaziri/status/1172728527470256129

    He updated the thread with two reports from different people that Disney+ would have the 4:3 versions. But now it turns out the Disney+ versions are cropped even further. :(

    In summary: Hang on to your physical media, people.”

    (At least we got another Steamed Hams out of it.)

    in reply to: Aspect Ratios #255704
    Nick R
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    When I’m going through directors’ filmographies, they’ll often switch aspect ratios willy-nilly as it goes along, depending on factors like how prestigious the film is, what suits it, how much control they have over it, trends, or whatever.

    I like how superhero film directors have switched in both directions over the last 20 years:

    Sam Raimi shot Spider-Man in 1.85:1 (DP: Don Burgess), then switched to 2.35:1 for Spider-Man 2 (DP: Bill Pope). IIRC the reason he gave was that because of the it helped the boxy shape made by Dr Octopus’s arms fit better in the frame in shots when he was seen alongside Spider-Man.

    Joss Whedon shot Avengers in 1.78:1 (DP: Seamus McGarvey), then switched to 2.39:1 for Age of Ultron (DP: Ben Davis).

    Zack Snyder shot Man of Steel and Batman v Superman in 2.35:1 (with DPs Amir Mokri and Larry Fong respectively), apart from the IMAX sequences. Then switched to 1.85:1 for Justice League (DP: Fabian Wagner; he’s the only credited cinematographer but I don’t know if he stayed for Joss Whedon’s reshoots). Apparently this switch was because Snyder liked his experiences using the squarer frame on BvS’s IMAX sections.

    All the X-Men, Wolverine and Deadpool films have stuck to 2.35/2.39:1 throughout – except the odd one out is the unreleased The New Mutants. Perhaps that’s why it’s been repeatedly shelved?

    in reply to: Aspect Ratios #255608
    Nick R
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    All your screen captures above show the video about 2.40:1. Not an unusual format for blockbuster films – although TV being shot like that has only started happening recently.

    I agree it seems wider and looks worse on YouTube when not in full screen mode. But I think that’s a side-effect of changes in the way companies tend to upload trailers, and in the way YouTube presents them.

    It used to be common for 2.35/2.39/2.40:1 (I can never remember the difference…) videos on YouTube to have the black letterbox borders baked into the video. For a Star Wars example, this Rogue One trailer:

    View post on imgur.com

    But now it’s more common for official trailer videos to omit those black borders, so that the YouTube viewport is exactly the size of the film footage, no larger:

    View post on imgur.com

    This changes the arrangement of all the other page elements, which I agree looks weird and unbalanced if you’re used to YouTube viewports being 4:3 or 16:9!

    The wider-than-16:9 ratio used for Doctor Who is a 2:1 format called Univisium. Seems to be the trendy new thing to use for anyone aspiring to make prestige TV: https://vashivisuals.com/the-hot-new-filmmaking-aspect-ratio/

    in reply to: Thankski veryski muchski budski #254926
    Nick R
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    A double lobotoski and ten rolls of rubber wallpaper.

    in reply to: Michael Jackson un-personing – Lister says Wacko Jacko #245789
    Nick R
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    “Full of goodness. Full of vitamins. Full of singing potatoes.”

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #245441
    Nick R
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    I don’t think that one of those two links is what you intended to post.

    in reply to: Sonic Mania #244914
    Nick R
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    Weirdly I’ve grown to appreciate Mario more as an adult. I found it a bit slow and boring as a kid.

    I occasionally played Mario games as a child, but not often as I never had a SNES, NES or Game Boy of my own. My problem coming to the Mario games years after growing up with Sonic as my primary platform games is not so much the speed, but the vulnerability. I’m used to being able to recklessly careen through Sonic levels curled up in a ball, able to hit enemies on the way up in a jump as well as on the way down, and with the knowledge that even if I get hit I’ll probably just lose rings and get a second chance. So whenever I play a Mario game and am in Little Mario mode (or, for that matter, if I go back to most single-hit-death platformers of the era), I find it as constantly tense as if I’m playing something notoriously challenging like Dark Souls!

    There is a great YouTube channel which goes through all the glitches in the game.

    My favourite S3&K glitch demonstration is Mike89’s AGDQ2012 speedrun of the game. He and many other players have done faster speedruns and used even more ridiculous glitches since then, but the commentary of this one – “and if you thought I broke that level…” – makes it my favourite.

    In 2014 for S&K’s 20th anniversary he did this video, a comprehensive tour through the game, collecting every Giant Ring and Extra Life monitor in a single run – which means showing off many bugs and tricks in order to switch between Sonic and Knuckles’ paths through the levels.

    Also, Summoning Salt does many really videos on the progression of speedrun world records, which make compelling viewing even if you don’t time attack those specific games. (I particularly recommend his video on Mario Bros level 4-2.) Here’s his video on Sonic 2:

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239167
    Nick R
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    Coincidentally, today my iPlayer rewatch of RTD’s Doctor Who episodes reached The Unicorn and the Wasp, which I finished watching only about 15 minutes before Kerblam! aired. So I appreciated the explicit reference to it in the new episode!

    The first two thirds genuinely fooled me into thinking that it was going to be inspired by the numerous newspaper articles over the last few years about working undercover at AMAZing South American Rainforest’s warehouses, and take the obvious route of having the automated system and/or its human managers rotten to the core and willing to sacrifice people in the name of efficiency. My guess for much of the episode was that the abducted workers were going to be imprisoned in a hivemind or something on the lower Dispatch levels – literalising the repeated phrase a “people-powered company”. And I’d assumed that the HELP ME message would turn out to be a plea from those people’s collective imprisoned subconscious. So I didn’t predict the twist about where the threat really came from.

    I laughed out loud at the bubblewrap reveal. If you’re going to make an everyday substance scary, I think bubblewrap works a lot better than, say, the rheum monsters from Sleep No More!

    I was less keen on the conveyor action sequence and the Kira character.

    Also a couple of Doctor Dwarf comparisons for you: it’s Twirly Toaster and the Tension Sheet!

    in reply to: Let's Talk About Inside No. 9 Live Episode #238597
    Nick R
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    I am a complete horror wuss (“The Harrowing” from series 1 and the Psychoville Halloween special are pretty much my limit) and so as soon as the silent CCTV footage turned up I went NOPE and watched most of it like this, in case of screen-filling jump scare. I wondered if the quietness of the dressing room scenes was a cunning way of getting us to turn up the TV volume! (I had the subtitles on at the very start of the episode – they appeared one word at a time, with delays and errors like in news or sport broadcasts – but I didn’t check how they were presented in those dressing room scenes.)

    So watching it like that I didn’t exactly get the full impact of it, but I can admire in theory what they were doing. I liked John Hoare’s thread on Twitter about it taking advantage of live TV as a medium, doing things that wouldn’t work anywhere near as well if viewed as a time-shifted recording or a made-for-streaming programme.

    I know that a big part of the joke was the way that the mobile phone story from the start is intended to be the by-the-numbers version of an Inside No 9 plot – it’s precisely what someone would imagine when thinking of a typical episode of the programme, so that when it cut back to it later on, we could imagine the connections in between. But if they had done a straight version of that story for the full episode, I could probably have coped with that, and watched it properly!

    I liked the Black Mirror joke!

    in reply to: What's the most you've laughed at Red Dwarf? #238011
    Nick R
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    Going back to the question of how many of the Red Dwarf episodes you can name from memory, here’s a handy way to test that. There are a few Red Dwarf episode title quizzes on Sporcle, but I think this is the only one that has all the series:

    https://www.sporcle.com/games/Debsters/red-dwarf-episodes-1-12

    I tried it just now and got 70/73, missing three titles from XI and XII. The last ones I got from the BBC series – the ones I always struggle to remember – were s2ep4, s3ep5, s4ep2 and s5ep5.

    They have lots of sitcom quizzes on that site. Some of which are ridiculously difficult.

    in reply to: Chris Barrie banging on about tanks for ten minutes #232566
    Nick R
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    “Perhaps I didn’t make myself clear?” said Kryten, emerging from the cockpit of tank #343 – a tank that had previously been featured in the 1995 James Bond film GoldenEye (1995). “I said: supper is ready!”

    Then he fired a shell from the turret of the tank that had previously been featured in the 1995 James Bond film GoldenEye, obliterating the gazebo and party of AR NPCs..

    In case I didn’t make myself clear: did you know that the tank in that episode (#343) had previously been featured in the 1995 James Bond film GoldenEye? This is an amazingly obscure piece of behind the scenes trivia that no one else seems to remember, and I think it should be mentioned more often.

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #232005
    Nick R
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    bloodteller:

    one other joke i didn’t get was in an episode of VII (i can’t remember which, they all sort of blend into one) where kochanski moans about how she hates being stuck with some “neurotic droid who’s completely obsessed with my pants drawer!” to which kryten responds “you mean I’m not alone?” what does this mean? is kryten being really self-deprecating or is there actually another android onboard going around perving over kochanski’s knickers?

    I always thought the joke was meant to be that because of the word “some”, he mishears “some neurotic droid” as “some neurotic droids”, so he thinks a different mechanoid is being referred to.

    Ben Saunders replied above saying that he doesn’t recognise Kochanski’s phrase as being a description of himself. I disagree; I think he does recognise that she’s referring to him, but he’s so accepting of own his neurosis and cleaning obsession that he doesn’t recognise that he’s being criticised, so he ignores that bit and focuses on the plural.

    However you interpret it, it’s a convoluted joke.

    in reply to: Which character do you resonate with the most? #231836
    Nick R
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    I bet a skutter would resonate pretty well if you hollowed out the base and used it as a loudspeaker cabinet.

    in reply to: ….Comedian found GUILTY of causing offence! #229886
    Nick R
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    lol j/k

    Nick R
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    I didn’t think that was physically possible.

    (Except for didgeridoo players.)

    in reply to: Post your Pearl Poll rankings #227844
    Nick R
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    Edit attempt #2: Arrgh, that last section of my ranking should have read “Series VIII, plus two“!

    in reply to: Post your Pearl Poll rankings #227843
    Nick R
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    OK it’s not letting me edit that post, but I wanted to add something about why I put Back to Reality in the criminally low position of #8. Essentially it’s because from the clips that were shown on Red Dwarf Night (Smeg-Ups and A-Z), it seemed to be built up to be the ultimate episode. Later I bought the script books and the Programme Guide, which built it up for me even more. Then I finally saw it (borrowing a school friend’s series V videos) and it wasn’t as perfect as I’d built it up in my mind.

    So although it’s still a fantastic episode, and it probably is the “best” episode by whatever standard you care to mention, and I wouldn’t argue against any praise that’s applied to it… I don’t love it as much as all the episodes I put above it.

    In that respect, it’s Red Dwarf’s equivalent of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. :P

    in reply to: Post your Pearl Poll rankings #227841
    Nick R
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    Genuinely superb classics:

    1 – Marooned
    2 – White Hole
    3 – Quarantine
    4 – Dimension Jump
    5 – Gunmen of the Apocalypse
    6 – Queeg
    7 – Out of Time
    8 – Back to Reality
    9 – Me2
    10 – Future Echoes
    11 – Thanks for the Memory
    12 – The Inquisitor
    13 – Stasis Leak
    14 – Camille
    15 – Holoship

    Really good:

    16 – Kryten
    17 – The Last Day
    18 – Polymorph
    19 – Legion
    20 – Justice
    21 – Timeslides
    22 – Tikka to Ride
    23 – Bodyswap
    24 – Balance of Power
    25 – Meltdown
    26 – Better Than Life
    27 – DNA
    28 – Terrorform
    29 – Confidence & Paranoia
    30 – Emohawk: Polymorph II
    31 – Give & Take
    32 – Backwards

    Good:

    33 – Rimmerworld
    34 – Psirens
    35 – The End
    36 – Demons & Angels
    37 – Stoke me a Clipper
    38 – Parallel Universe
    39 – Ouroboros
    40 – Mechocracy
    41 – The Beginning
    42 – Waiting for God
    43 – Blue
    44 – Skipper

    Big problems, but still likeable for different reasons:

    45 – Fathers & Suns
    46 – Officer Rimmer
    47 – M-Corp
    48 – Lemons
    49 – Krysis
    50 – Trojan
    51 – Twentica
    52 – Epideme
    53 – Nanarchy
    54 – Back to Earth – Part 1
    55 – Cured
    56 – Back to Earth – Part 3
    57 – Entangled
    58 – Duct Soup
    59 – Samsara
    60 – Back to Earth – Part 2
    61 – Beyond a Joke
    62 – Siliconia
    63 – Dear Dave

    Series VIII, plus one:

    64 – Cassandra
    65 – Back in the Red – Part 1
    66 – Can of Worms
    67 – Back in the Red – Part 2
    68 – Back in the Red – Part 3
    69 – Timewave
    70 – Pete – Part 1
    71 – Only the Good…
    72 – Krytie TV
    73 – Pete – Part 2

    Post I-VI episodes that made it into my top 36: Tikka to Ride and Give & Take; pushing out Parallel Universe and Waiting For God. And with those two, I think I may have been following conventional wisdom on their quality.

    A confession: I did my ranking without having done any recent rewatches. In many cases, my last rewatch of a given episode was when its Dwarfcast commentary. I also haven’t got the XI and XII DVDs yet, so although I watched a few of them more than once on their first broadcast/online release, they haven’t been rewatched since.

    Looking at it now I’m wondering what I was thinking with some of my choices! I mean: Terrorform below Bodyswap and Better Than Life? From the Dave series, Trojan, M-Corp and Krysis all feel like I should have put them higher.

    There was some discussion in one of the other threads about how people have ordered the three parts of Back to Earth. I went 1 – 3 – 2, doing my best to split them up to avoid doing the obvious thing of lumping them all together. I put Part 1 first because I still remember the joy of having the show back after so long, rather. Part 3 is second because I really liked the Coronation Street stuff and the touching ending, even though I always found the the Creator scenes with Lister typing pretty cringeworthy. Part 2 I should have probably put higher because it has the brilliant Enhance Button scene (incidentally, look at this page and Ctrl+F the word “geographically” to see an amazing breakdown of the reflections in the equivalent Blade Runner scene).

    Last time I watched series VIII, I was slightly more kindly disposed toward Back in the Red parts 2 and 3 than I was on first broadcast. I didn’t even hate the claymation and Blue Midget dance bits! Still not enough to bring them out of the bottom 10.

    Highlighting just the Dave episodes from my list:

    31 – Give & Take
    40 – Mechocracy
    41 – The Beginning
    44 – Skipper
    45 – Fathers & Suns
    46 – Officer Rimmer
    47 – M-Corp
    48 – Lemons
    49 – Krysis
    50 – Trojan
    51 – Twentica
    54 – Back to Earth – Part 1
    55 – Cured
    56 – Back to Earth – Part 3
    57 – Entangled
    59 – Samsara
    60 – Back to Earth – Part 2
    62 – Siliconia
    63 – Dear Dave
    66 – Can of Worms
    69 – Timewave

    in reply to: Merry 10th to The Bodysnatcher Collection #224950
    Nick R
    Participant

    The BBFC really had a thing against headbutts at that time. Even The Matrix (a 15 certificate) had one edited out. (Which AFAIK affected the soundtrack and was the reason the commentary wasn’t on the Region 2 release.)

    Although IIRC there’s one in one of the Lord of the Rings films (possibly the PG-rated Fellowship of the Ring?) that somehow made it through unedited at around the same time.

    in reply to: What if Red Dwarf started at series VII? #224191
    Nick R
    Participant

    I’m not keen on this new 280,000 character limit.

    in reply to: Good first episodes? #222973
    Nick R
    Participant

    I’m fond of “Pilot”, “S1x01” and “Pilot”.

    in reply to: The Red Dwarf Programme Guide #222963
    Nick R
    Participant

    The authors really seemed to have it in for Smeg Ups.

    I wonder what they thought of the way blooper reels subsequently become a staple of DVD bonus features? I like to imagine them picking up DVDs in MVC, then angrily discarding them when they discover “gag reel” listed amongst the extras.

    in reply to: Walgreens Photo #222744
    Nick R
    Participant

    I’ve never seen one before, no-one has, but it looks shopped, I can tell from some of the pixels and from combining quite a few different opinions into one in my time.

    in reply to: Please view this thread to read title. #221883
    Nick R
    Participant

    There’s no death here. You start off dead, you have a funeral, then you come to life! As each year passes you get younger and younger until you become a newborn baby. Then you go back inside your mother, who goes back inside her mother, and so on, until eventually we combine three separate opinions into one glorious whole!

    in reply to: Please view this thread to read title. #221877
    Nick R
    Participant

    Kryten 2X4B 523separateopinionsP

    in reply to: 'Jump The Shark' – Guardian article #221552
    Nick R
    Participant

    Or, for those who don’t mind that awful canned laughter but do mind the word “fuck”:

    in reply to: "There wouldn't have been a Series 6, 7 or 8…" #221300
    Nick R
    Participant

    Would a successful American Red Dwarf pilot and TV series mean that Jane Leeves would never appear in in Frasier, and Linwood Boomer would never create Malcolm in the Middle?

    I can’t imagine sacrificing either of those things, no matter how much good Red Dwarf it might lead to.

    in reply to: Which version of Norman's Holly do you prefer? #221187
    Nick R
    Participant

    Those bits in the audiobooks where Chris Barrie plays him.

    in reply to: Sonic Mania #221046
    Nick R
    Participant

    @KyoSo:

    The best level design in Mania came from the original levels/new sections of old levels, so all SEGA have to do to top this is do what Christian “Taxman” Whitehead knew to do from the very beginning:

    Not just what Taxman alone knew! The game has a pretty long list of credits, but I don’t like to see Stealth (Headcannon) overlooked. He, like Taxman, got his start in fangames and ROM hacks. His Sonic: Project Mettrix fangame represented what is AFAIK the first fan recreation of the Sonic engine for DOS/Windows that was programmed in C rather than using an application like The Games Factory/Klik n Play, and he also worked on an impressive ROM hack called Sonic Megamix. He knows a lot about how Sonic game engines tick.

    (Fortunately Sonic Mania has much better level design than Mettrix or Megamix.)


    @Dave
    Wallace:

    It was a smart choice to combine existing and fresh levels and to remix the existing stages in the way that Mania does. It’s the perfect combination of old and new: familiar enough to feel cosy and comfortable, but inventive enough that it can still surprise you and remind you how enjoyable the element of discovery was with those old games.

    Yes! There are so many moments throughout the game where one classic level incorporated elements of another in ways that seemed obvious in hindsight. Making the exterior of Flying Battery based on Wing Fortress; giving Oil Ocean aspects of Sandopolis.

    Those combinations were some of my favourite things about the game, alongside the imaginative boss fights.

    @Ben Kirkham:

    I’m desperately trying to find a way for Sonic Mania to fit into Red Dwarf

    Nigel Kitching worked on both the Smegazine and Sonic the Comic. Will that do for a connection?

    in reply to: Level//Nivelo #219684
    Nick R
    Participant

    I want to know what the Nivelo numbers are for the Diesel Decks.

    in reply to: An Adventure In Time And BBC Manchester #219567
    Nick R
    Participant

    I think you’ll find that the tale of Norm and his ball would work best as a book:

    in reply to: XI review scores #218665
    Nick R
    Participant

    Maybe it’s like how Return of the King was the one that won all the Oscars: because it came last, it was seen as the one to represent the achievement of the whole series, despite the fact that THE FIRST WAS THE BEST.

    Yes, I did just compare Can of Worms to Return of the King.

    I’m not comparing Twentica to Fellowship, though.

    in reply to: GOG.com is selling Simon the Sorcerer on the cheap #218581
    Nick R
    Participant

    I bought one of the CD-ROM releases of Simon the Sorcerer 1 & 2 years ago, when Game used to stock several shelves’ worth of Sold Out Software budget re-releases. As I recall, the main thing that annoyed me was that unlike every other talkie point-and-click adventure, you could have either subtitles or voice acting, but not both at the same time. I think that was fixed in the sequel, but I didn’t play much of that because I wanted to finish the first game first. Which I never did because, let’s be honest, it was never one of the great adventure games, was it? (Though I remember the original Amiga release getting some praise for its lush graphics: nine floppy disks!)

    Robert Llewellyn turned up in Discworld Noir as well. Unfortunately, most people without access to a Windows 98SE-era PC are unlikely to ever play it again. I know my copy stopped working after one graphics card or OS upgrade. (And unlike Grim Fandango, which stopped working for me at around the same time, Discworld Noir isn’t likely to get a remaster.)

    in reply to: Which episodes act somewhat as 'prequels' to XI? #218119
    Nick R
    Participant

    We are all aware that a prequel is an installment made *after* the work it’s a prequel to, right?

    Let’s just pretend the title said “predecessors”, “antecedents” or “precursors” instead.

    in reply to: What if every episode had an XI-style ending? #217859
    Nick R
    Participant

    “You’re a bit of a slob, Lister, you know, but when it comes down to it you keep your word. This time I’m gonna believe you. Let’s go for another drink.”

    [credits roll]

    in reply to: THE FORA PETITION #217855
    Nick R
    Participant

    When I saw you for the first time (first time)
    I learned your name was Laura (Laura)
    And I got a funny feeling (feeling)
    So I typed a post on fora (you-should-say “forum” baby)

    in reply to: THE FORA PETITION #217835
    Nick R
    Participant

    Did you know that Howard Goodall hid a vocoded sample of the word “fora” in the Red Dwarf theme tune?

    Nick R
    Participant

    considering all the reasons for writing Holly out in the first place still apply

    Being redundant on exposition-delivery duties after Kryten arrived? At least it would make a change to hear “best guess…” coming from Holly instead!

    There are scenes in XI where Holly could have fitted. The “could these life signs by any chance be us?” joke might have worked as well if it was Holly making that mistake instead of Rimmer.

    in reply to: What would your running order be? #217535
    Nick R
    Participant

    Arrangement closest in feel to the classic series:

    I was thinking of matching them up with their series III equivalents:

    1. Backwards/Twentica (a trip to 20th century Earth)
    2. Marooned/Samsara (isolated conversations)
    3. Polymorph/Can of Worms (I have got something in mind as a specific link between these episodes, but to mention it would be a spoiler)
    4. Bodyswap/Officer Rimmer (Rimmer misuses technology. OK, this is probably the most tenuous connection)
    5. Timeslides/Give & Take (time travel again… but unlike the first episode, here they intervene in their own pasts)
    6. The Last Day/Krysis (a Kryten-focused episode in which he meets another mechanoid)

    in reply to: If the Boyz were Beatles, who would they be? #217519
    Nick R
    Participant



    in reply to: What effect did 9/11 have on Red Dwarf? #216999
    Nick R
    Participant

    The crew getting stuck in Better Than Life but being unaware of it is clearly a coded message to WAKE UP, SHEEPLE.

    in reply to: give and take #216837
    Nick R
    Participant

    That’s Give & Take, you philistine!

    in reply to: Amazon US is Terrible at Red Dwarf ]]> #216752
    Nick R
    Participant

    the bewilderingly stupid and bizarre way they labeled the Series X DVD as Red Dwarf: “X” (WHY THE QUOTES?).

    I’ve used the Update Product Info link to submit corrections to Amazon title inconsistencies before – though only on books, never done it with DVDs. Occasionally they’ve even been accepted.

    in reply to: Should they have continued Red Dwarf after Series VI? #216737
    Nick R
    Participant

    Christ almighty. We’re in the middle of a new series. Do we need three separate discussions about the merits of Series VII and VIII right now?

    It seems that with a lot of fandom discussions, the stuff they hate the most seem to get returned to more often than the stuff they should celebrate.

    Case in point: there’s a brand new RedLetterMedia Harry Plinkett video on The Force Awakens. But it ends up spending nearly 50% of its time reiterating or continuing arguments related to the problems with the Star Wars prequels, which by this point must surely be the most-discussed films on the Internet. (It also happens to be a relatively poorly-argued critique compared to those earlier videos.)

    Fandoms love to hate…

    in reply to: Brands in Red Dwarf #216473
    Nick R
    Participant

    Groovy Channel 27.

    in reply to: Who is Responsible for This Laugh? #215694
    Nick R
    Participant

    In terms of Red Dwarf; nothing annoys me quite as much as the smug groans from the audience members who twig Lister’s grassy knoll plan and need to announce it. Yeah, well done you fucking geniuses; you got the reference.

    I quite like that lone “oh-HOOO!” noise. After years of watching my recording of the broadcast, when I got Xtended it was one of those bits where something seemed missing.

    I also don’t think it was necessarily done through any need to announce their cleverness. Couldn’t it just have been an involuntary reaction from someone impressed with the idea?

    in reply to: Rimmericks #214327
    Nick R
    Participant

    A guest star from Scotland called Craig
    Human Confidence was who he played.
    He moved to the States –
    The cruellest of fates!
    ‘Cos everyone there calls him Cregg.

    in reply to: Hitch-Hexers Guide To The Galaxy #214009
    Nick R
    Participant

    And Another Thing wasn’t a completely unenjoyable reading experience

    “That book is one of the least benightedly unenjoyable pieces of text it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid reading.”

    in reply to: The 5 Best Red Dwarf Scenes #213646
    Nick R
    Participant

    Well, those are certainly five Red Dwarf scenes that happen to be on Youtube

    (The taranshula scene is the best scene.)

    Nick R
    Participant

    I agree that Hattie’s Holly was not written as “specifically female” in the way that Kochanski was in VII and VIII.

    But one of the differences between her and Kochanski* is that she hadn’t spent six series and several novels being built up as the destined romantic partner of the show’s central character! Because of that history between them, I imagine it’s very hard to write Kochanski in a way that she can be incorporated into the programme as simply another crew member sharing the action and comedy. And it’d be hard to change that now, if Doug wants to keep her portrayal consistent with the things that have been established about her since series VII.

    That’s why I wonder if a new character – male or female – could be added as a regular cast member, without feeling like they disrupt the show’s core crew in the way that can’t be avoided with Kochanski?

    * (Hmmm, there’s an intriguing thought: what if Clare Grogan had taken over playing Holly in series 3? Lister’s reaction to that would have been interesting!)

    Nick R
    Participant

    I intended making a similar thread here recently: not so much asking why Doug seems set on including her, more because I’m curious why people think her appearances as a main character haven’t been very popular so far.

    Are the problems with her appearances in Last Human, VII and VIII because her inclusion fundamentally alters the dynamic between the male characters? Would this be the case with the addition of any new female character – or is it specifically Kochanski who, as established, works best when she’s only present via Lister’s idealised memories of her?

    Or on the other hand: does she have the potential to be as funny a character as anyone else, but specific problems with the writing prevented her from being a good addition to VII and VIII? (No doubt for some fans, it didn’t do her any favours that she was added just as Chris Barrie left, so she came across as if she was intended to be his replacement.) Or is it the casting of Chloe Annett that people take issue with – would an actress who specialises in sitcom parts, or a stand-up comedian, be likely to give a funnier performance?

    Personally, I think I’m fonder of VII – and of Kochanski’s role in it – than most people here are. I like her obsessive memorisation of gurgling pipe noises (yes, I know I’m alone in this opinion). I think her sudden burst of genuine enthusiasm for opera-based party games in Blue’s games night scene is pretty funny. And there are some good scenes where she plays the straight man to set up other characters’ jokes (if she hadn’t been present, we’d never have got “What kind of navigation officer can’t tell left from right?”, which is probably my favourite one-liner in VII). But it’s not often her own lines in that series which get laughs.

    It’s been a long time since I watched any of VIII, but it’s hard to tell whether she disrupted the dynamic between the male characters, because that series made so many changes that were far more disruptive, and because she spends so much of the series cooped up in scenes with only Kryten. (It doesn’t help that the “hahaha Kryten is female!” stuff is among my least favourite elements of VIII.) There’s not, as I recall, much time spent on things like Rimmer’s resentment of her outranking him.

    Personally, I think she has potential to be a more popular inclusion in the cast, and to get laughs of her own. And I don’t think she’d have to be recast in order for this to happen. But she’d have to be written in a way that gets away from the “women are always sensible, and nag the men, who are basically immature” setup, which can’t help but make her seem like a killjoy. But altering that would represent quite a change in how she’s been portrayed since she became a regular character in series VII. Also, unfortunately, on the evidence so far, such a change in the sort of material given to the series’ only regular female character might not be one of Doug Naylor’s strengths.

    in reply to: Guest Blogger's take on Red Dwarf #211939
    Nick R
    Participant

    Sabrina Mulholland-Fflaw

    in reply to: Plots for RDXII #211879
    Nick R
    Participant

    > We’ll save that for Part IV

    Pete Part Flaw

    in reply to: Guest Blogger's take on Red Dwarf #211878
    Nick R
    Participant

    They begin their journey home. On the way they’ll break the Light Barrier. They’ll meet Einstein, Archimedes, God and Flawman Wisdom.

    in reply to: Guest Blogger's take on Red Dwarf #211778
    Nick R
    Participant

    “Flawtball, It’s a Funny Old Game” by Kevin Keegan.

    in reply to: Guest Blogger's take on Red Dwarf #211749
    Nick R
    Participant

    My baseball cards must be worth a flawtune!

    in reply to: Guest Blogger's take on Red Dwarf #211679
    Nick R
    Participant

    If Doug just wrote ‘FLAW’ for every line, technically speaking that would be only one flaw, but it would be such a big one that it’s worth mentioning… however many times there are lines of dialogue that series.

    in reply to: PLOTS FOR SERIES 11 #211483
    Nick R
    Participant

    MEH-DI-BOT

    in reply to: "Happy Birthday BBC Two" #210138
    Nick R
    Participant

    I have a feeling that programme was made 10 years ago for the 40th anniversary. You can tell from Chris and Robert’s respective hairlines. ;)

    Yes, Jeremy Clarkson and Ian Hislop looked much younger too.

    Oh, and the fact that Anthony Minghella was alive was another clue…

    Nick R
    Participant

    Looking at The Simpsons’ chart, “Alone Again, Natura-Diddily” has a rating that’s higher than most of seasons 1-8. This disgusts me.

    BSG’s ratings go against what I thought was a general consensus that the final season was the worst – the final episode in particular has a surprisingly high rating, considering that I’ve encountered very few people who have a good word to say about it!

    The regression lines for Buffy the Vampire Slayer all increase towards the end of each of its seasons. Rightfully so!

    If you squint a bit the graph for Frasier looks kind of like the cartoon of the Seattle skyline in its opening titles.

    in reply to: Wait a minute… #209812
    Nick R
    Participant

    I think I can see where this is going:

    It was all downhill from the moment BBC2 began broadcasting…

    It was all downhill after that Scottish guy started tinkering with image transmission…

    The start of human language and civilisation? Bah, it’s been downhill ever since…

    It was all downhill after those organisms started evolving…

    It’s been a smooth downhill slope ever since all that Big Bang business…

    etc etc

    in reply to: Wait a minute… #209792
    Nick R
    Participant

    You’re all wrong. If you ask me, series I to V were crap, series VI to X were crap.

    But that brief period in the middle, when they were making it in America? Brilliant!

    Nick R
    Participant

    “Appear in” seems a bit misleading. From the sound of it, it’ll be more like “the title will briefly be shown written on-screen, somewhere towards the edge of a brief insert shot of a diary page”.

    As I posted elsewhere: between this poll, Iron Man 3’s “Toast of Croydon”, and Thor 2’s ITV News clips and Tube jokes, it’s nice to see all this newfound Anglophilia from Marvel Studios.

    (And it should really be Downton Abbey, if only to provide continuity with Iron Man 3, which made it canon within the MCU! So then the Avengers sequel can have Steve Rogers and Happy Hogan bonding as fans of the programme…)

    in reply to: Vic and Bob. House of Fools. Sitcom Tickets. #209661
    Nick R
    Participant

    The Gone in Sixty Seconds joke was wonderful.

    The rest of it wasn’t bad, either, but that joke in particular: glorious.

    in reply to: RDXI in MMXV? #207321
    Nick R
    Participant

    #DwarfFax

    in reply to: RDXI in MMXV? #207290
    Nick R
    Participant

    More people watched Red Dwarf X on ships docked in port than watched the opening ceremony of the Olympics. #WharfFacts

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