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I was able to find images of all the 2007 and 2008 calendar pages, but other than that I’m hoping someone has kept their old calendars and can possibly get me scans of them.

EDIT: Si…. I think we need to chat… =)

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I would definitely include any material found in Andrew’s book that added in-universe material… unfortunately since my book is an unauthorized production I’m not actively seeking out anyone officially affiliated with GNP for fear of getting them in trouble. It’s a shame, that book would probably almost be as good as having the movie script itself. =)

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Also, does anyone have any of these?

https://starstore.com/acatalog/Starstore_Catalogue_RED_DWARF_CALENDAR__RED_DWARF_CALENDARS_5730.html

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Ridley: It’s the first I’ve heard of that one. Did it ever actually get released, or did it suffer a similar fate as the movie itself?

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Here’s my complete Christmas Comedy List:

Blue Christmas — Porky Pig
Buttcracker Suite — Bob Rivers
Carol of the Bartenders — Bob Rivers
The Chimney Song — Bob Rivers
The Chipmunk Song — The Chipmunks
Chipmunks Roasting on an Open Fire — Bob Rivers
Christmas Money — Bob Rivers
Christmas Time In Hell — South Park
Christmas turkey blues — Arrogant Worms, The
Decorations — Bob Rivers
Didn’t I Get This Last Year (1993) (w/Grant Goodeve) (Do You Hear What I Hear) — Bob Rivers
Dominick the Donkey (The Italian Christmas Donkey) — Lou Monte
Down With Christmas — Paybacks
Few Of My Favorite Things — Bob Rivers
Flu Ride — Bob Rivers
Frosty the Pervert — Bob Rivers
Frosty The Snowman — The Chipmunks
Grab Your Balls Like Michael Jackson — Bob Rivers
Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) — The Chipmunks
Holidaze (S’cuze Me, I’ve Got Gifts to Buy) — Bob Rivers
Holy Shit, Its Christmas — Red Peters
I Am Santa Claus — Bob Rivers
I’m Getting Sued By Santa Clau — Bill Engvall
I’m Mister Heat Miser — TV
If Eminem Did Jingle Bells — Bob Rivers
It’s Beginning To Look Like Christmas — The Chipmunks
Jesus’s Birthday — Bob Rivers
Jingle Bells — The Chipmunks
Little Hummer Girl — Bob Rivers
Merry Fucking Christmas — South Park
Microsoft Christmas — Bob Rivers
Mr Mackey Bells — South Park
Oh Holy Night — South Park
Oh Holy Night (Shock Version) — South Park
Over The River And Through The Woods — The Chipmunks
Parking Spaces — Bob Rivers
Pokémon — Bob Rivers
Police Stop My Car — Bob Rivers
The Real Slim Santa — Christmas Parody
The Restroom Door Said ‘Gentlemen’ — Bob Rivers
Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer — The Chipmunks
Santa Claus Is Comin’ To Town — The Chipmunks
Santa Claus Is Foolin’ Around — Bob Rivers
Silver Bells — The Chipmunks
Stan — Christmas Parody
There’s Another Santa Claus (1993) (Here Comes Santa Claus) — Bob Rivers
Toy Sack — Bob Rivers
The Twelve Pains of Christmas — Bob Rivers
Up On The House-Top — The Chipmunks
Walkin’ ‘Round in Women’s Underwear — Bob Rivers
We Wish You A Merry Christmas — The Chipmunks
We Wish You Weren’t Living With Us — Bob Rivers
White Christmas — The Chipmunks
Wreck The Malls — Bob Rivers
Yellow Snow! — Christmas Parody
You’re A Mean One Mr Grinch — Whirling Dervishes

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>And how would we go about doing that, Paul? =)
You need to let this go.

Oh, I’m sorry… is my research bothering you…? Excuse the fuck out of me.

And I agree, Lemons would probably fit the best, especially with the North Star opening scene.

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And how would we go about doing that, Paul? =)

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Thanks all!

Jason: heh heh… well, there’s bound to be a few errors in a book this size, it’s unfortunate one of them is in the preview.. =)

As far as the Red Dwarf cover goes, Pat won’t be doing that one because I absolutely can’t have anything identifiable on the cover as being specifically from Red Dwarf, as the book is unauthorized. We got away with it on the BttF book because we have the support of the official BttF website, so we could bend the rules a little; but for the RD book, I don’t want to take any chances with the cover, so the cover you see on our website is the final design. It’s a shame, because we did have him do a preliminary rough sketch of something back before I decided on a generic cover; but we felt it was still too identifiable.

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Thanks! That, plus all the interior sketches, where done by our extremely talented illustrator Pat Carbajal: http://patart-pat.blogspot.com. He did most of our covers, including the one for our upcoming Back to the Future Timeline.

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I’d happily take it over Jersey Shore and Honey Boo-Boo anyday…….

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No problem Jonsmad, thanks for trying!

For those interested in the BttF book, the book’s page is here:

http://hassleinbooks.com/pages/book_bttfLexicon.php

It will eventually contain links to the various Amazon sites carrying the book, including Amazon.UK.

You can also friend us at facebook.com/hassleinbooks or follow us at Twitter.com/hassleinbooks to be updated when the book is released. I’ll also post in the forums here when it’s available, as long as the Admins don’t mind a non-Red Dwarf related plug.

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Just an update: Work on the RD book has slowed as we finished up production on our Back to the Future Lexicon, which is still on track for a Thanksgiving release. Once the dust settles on that, I’m returning full-force to Red Dwarf, finishing up documenting Back to Earth before moving on to the novels!

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We had one person report back to us that it was a pretty faithful adaptation of the movie, but what were your thoughts? Was there anything in it that would be considered ‘new’ material for the encyclopedia? I wish I knew you were going, I could have sent you in as our correspondent.. =)

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DISCLAIMER: The ravings of Pecospete666 does not necessarily reflect the opinions of the average American Red Dwarf fan.

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Got it, thanks! Seems I have a bit of re-writing to do……

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I never got the impression the Columbus was brought along, I assumed the transporter just transported the crew through space (and time) by way of the rod ‘connecting’ the Rimmers, leaving their ship behind. I also think Kryten ‘mispoke’ when he said they could be there in a matter of seconds, as he just finished saying the craft was not flight-worthy and useless to them.

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I seem to remember that there was a sign in the shop telling actors not to eat the sweets… or have I just made that up?

There was; in fact, that was the first clue I had that they were on a set, and not on an “actual” street. The thing that threw me was the magazine cover mentioning Coronation Street in the same store. Why would that have been there if it was a set (even an on-location one) ?

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Thanks! I think I have a better grasp of what they were intending, I think the “On-location set” is the only thing that explains why there is mail in the mailbox, or why there’s a cashier working in the shop that’s supposed to be a set, selling magazines that actually mention Coronation Street. (mind you, this is not nitpicking, I’m just trying to get the entries straight for the Encyclopedia…)

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OK, I actually have a serious question regarding BtE… during the Coronation Street bit, what’s the general consensus: was it meant to be a “Real Life” location, or were they supposed to actually be on the set of Coronation Street? In other words, according to their perception, did they actually drive through the town of Weatherfield, or were they, either knowingly or unknowingly, really on the set of the television show? There’s evidence to support both, but I want to know what the general population believes to be the case.

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I’m actually going through BtE now for the Encyclopedia; watching it again after re-watching Blade Runner, I happen to think the Nose World scene and final confrontation with the creator were absolutely brilliant, and the revelation at the end justified the entire 3-part series in my opinion. I do think they should have at least used a laugh-track for the ship-board scenes, then removed it while they were on “Earth”. I think this would have worked on several levels; one, it would have made the ship-board scenes more Dwarfy, and wouldn’t have instantly put off so many people; it would have also strengthened the contrast between their reality and the ‘real world’, and finally, I don’t think the Earth-bound scenes needed it, as the focus on humor switched from situational comedy to sci-fi parody. Unfortunately so much of the latter scenes’ humor relies on an in-depth knowledge of Blade Runner (The character of “Swallow”, for example, being modeled and named after Hannibal “Chew”!, or pretty much everything having to do with the Creator, from his look, to his ‘munchkin’ minions, to his death) with dialog taken practically word-for-word from the movie.

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We’ve also geo-blocked Saturn. Just because.
This is the first time a Dave-written thing has made me laugh.

Again, skimpy on the details, no mention of whether Titan is blocked as well… Goddamn corporate execs!

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Well crap.. looks like I’ll be taking the less noble approach then, at least until the Region 1 Blu-ray comes out, if that’s even still in the works.

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Just checking back in; Jonsmad, were you able to find any mobisodes from your files?

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Thanks, Jeff, If / when you do that, please let me know; you can contact me through the book’s page at http://www.hassleinbooks.com. In the meantime, I’ll check out your project, sounds great!

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Thanks Jeff! Sorry to keep side-lining, but those vids you mentioned, were the cast ‘in character’ in them, or were they just themselves? I’m asking because I’m writing an encyclopedia on RD and looking for any new in-universe material, and this is something totally new to me.

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I can’t speak for the site, but I see no harm in it!
Incidentally, I’d like more information on these other VHS tapes, “Smegheads in Seattle” and “Swirly Thing Alert”, I’ve never heard of them. What exactly are they?

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> I wonder if its opened to people outside tha UK?

Well, other than the fact that the video doesn’t play outside the UK, they didn’t ask where I live when I signed up, so I’m gonna say give it a shot!

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> I did too, but I have to say I REEEEEEALLY dislike Telltale’s approach. It’s more “click here to advance to another flood of dialogue” than “okay, I have a cleaver, a thimble, a dinosaur egg and a picture of Sasquatch…how do I get into the fortress?”

Ha! OK, I’ll agree with you on that. The newer games seem to be more about the writing and less about making actual puzzles to solve. I think I only got stuck once in the entire game, and it was only because I wasn’t paying attention to what I was supposed to be doing. Fortunately they do enough of a good job with the material, whether it’s Sam & Max, Wallace & Gromit or BttF, to keep me coming back.. =)

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Thanks, Seb, I responded in full over at the official forums, but to reiterate: I apologize if I made it sound like I thought it was a ‘conspiracy’, it was merely a reaction to having been told something that it is only now, less than two weeks away from airing, not appearing to be the case. I can certainly wait a few weeks if it takes that long to make it’s way over, it just would have been nice to have been told t would take a few weeks, instead of getting misinformation disguised as fact.

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Telltale games by their very nature are slower-paced games… and the BttF game was admittedly slower than the average Telltale game, so I can see where you’re coming from. I grew up on those kind of “point and click” adventure games, so it was old hat for me, but I can understand they’re not for everyone. Still, I had the added ‘bonus’ of having to click on every single item multiple times to get every last line of dialog in the game.. so you can imagine how slow it was for ME… =)

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DTO = Download to Own? Is that a pay service? Is it UK-only as well? What about U.S.? What about Blu-ray? Some answer….

My tweet: “@RichardDGNaylor Any news on the U.S. front? Had heard RDX would air & release on DVD simultaneously, but can’t find any proof 2 weeks away”

went unanswered as well… Really starting to feel like we’re getting the shaft over here.

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I had to play it through a few times for the Back to the Future Encyclopedia; loved it, very few continuity mistakes, and had all the humor and charm of the movies. We were cracking up just watching the video of my playthough!

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Odd… I tweeted Richard Naylor that exact question with no response… Also, I don’t see Doug’s answer, what was it?

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That’s what I’m asking – it runs in October, I’m not in the UK or else I’d go, but we really need info on it, even the playbook would be awesome. Please let me know if anyone plans on going!

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“When this thing hits 89 miles…”

“88, sir.”

“88!! 88 miles an hour, you’re going to see some serious shit!”

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I’d be more ticked off it the premiere was, like, a year away… as it is now I could wait three weeks, assuming they ever announce a goddamn American station running it!

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::sigh….::

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Pete, my friend, for the love of God…. it’s spelled “Vogons.” =)

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“Is it a ‘Cat being smacked on the head by a smegged off Lister’ kind of sound?”

I know, it’s from one of the worst episodes, but it still had some great Cat moments. That and “PHEWEY! Is it CRAMPED in here!”

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Testing… testing….. yup, it works!

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One of the worst (or at least unfunny), in my opinion, is “Back to Reality”, with “Justice” pretty close. They both felt somewhat awkward and shoe-horned it.

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Check out these guys!

http://www.propstore.com/product-Original-Nanarchy-Script.htm

Yes, exactly like this… but a less “having to pay $80” way and a more “If someone has a copy I could borrow, get scanned or download, they’ll get a mention in the acknowledgements and possibly a free book out of it” kind of way…. =)

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Does anyone know of any scripts out there, first draft to final, that isn’t included in the two official script books? I’m talking actual scripts, not transcripts found on some websites. Scripts, especially early drafts, usually contain a wealth of information not commonly known. If anyone knows of any (or owns copies of them) please contact me, Thanks!

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For the record, Mary Queen of Scots was a real person.

Yeah, that was my first indication that this wasn’t going to be as easy as I thought…. =) The sheer amount of real-world references is staggering.

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Dammit.. I should know better than to rely on Bleeding Cool, they always seem to be two months behind the times… Well I’m certainly not going to buy it on iTunes when I’ll be getting the blu-ray a month later.

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By the way, if anyone is interested in the project, here’s a link to the book’s site:
http://hassleinbooks.com/pages/book_redDwarf.php

As well as my blog entry on the project:
http://paulanoma.blogspot.com/2011/03/its-cold-outside-theres-no-kind-of.html

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My first exposure to Red Dwarf was on PBS back in the nineties, it was the only time I ever considered donating to the station. Just saw the news here:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/30/red-dwarf-x-to-air-in-the-us-at-same-time-as-in-the-uk/

Phew! Not that we’d have had to wait long for it to come out on DVD, but the sooner I get to watch em, the sooner the book gets updated. =)

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((I will search. Might be like trying to find a good joke in duct soup. But I’ll try. I dont have every mobisode but ive got most of them.))

Honestly, even if you just had the second half of “Red Christmas”, that would make my day, as it’s the only one with actual new material in it that just can’t be found.

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{{I’ve got the mobisodes most of them somewhere. Cant find the memory card i saved them on though.}}

If you could find them (and send me vids), you would most certainly secure a spot on the acknowledgements page!

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I’m surprised no one has the Mobisodes, specifically the Christmas one… it’s turning out to be like the Star Wars Holiday Special… no one wants to even admit it ever existed!

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