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These sound like writing exercises…

The cast might now be under investigation regarding historic sex offences?

Todhunter may have worn flares?

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Kevin McNally will have been drafted in to recreate the lost episodes in front of sycophantic festival crowds.

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There may have been a Soviet character? Or an American one. To reflect the space race.
Cat might have been descended from Leika, which would have made the similie jokes a bit more confusing.

Or it might have been modelled more closely on Steptoe & Son rather than Porridge.
Lister and Son. Both played by the same person, obviously. Someone like – I dunno – Kenny Lynch?
And Rimmer could have been more of an Alf Garnett character, calling Kochanski a silly moo, and calling Lister all sorts of horrible names that most of us will have forgotten about by now.

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Not really a high/low, but halfway frames is a genuinely good idea.
It would brilliantly represent how fast/slow the meat of the story began.
Plus there might be one of someone bending over hilariously.

How about high/low Visual FX.

High/low alternate character played by main cast member (catchy title!). Best for me is Chris’s Low Rimmer in Demons and Angels. Worst is Spanners or Padre from the start of Dimension Jump.

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“It’s been so long that I watched it that I forgot there was a Bishop in it.”

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>Is anyone else starting to find these threads really fucking tedious?

Fucking A.

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Honestly it’s football, football, football with you isn’t it!

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I’d suggest a trial. But after twenty or so years, it seems most of us Red Dwarf fans have lost our ability to judge.

#levity

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I love that one where they objectify and kill April.

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Cat. So we didn’t have to watch Can of Worms.

Or one of the nice vending machines. So if I was caught I could easily pretend I was lifting it up.
(I am heavily into frotting, so don’t even need to remove or adjust any item of clothing… People would never suspect a thing.)

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Amazing.

What happens if you play it backwards?

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>Rimmer falls through the bar.
He did that in episode 1.

“Drink up, Listy. Were leaving!”

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That’s what they WANT you to think!!

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Blimey.

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Alexei Sayle used to sniff Pot Noodles in his act, prior to the Young Ones. In relation to what, I don’t know.
Pot Noodles were a new thing in the late 70s, weren’t they, and probably considered pretty bizarre. Reconstituted vegetables and dust. A ripe target for alternative comedy.
Once Lister has got the big laugh out of them in Marooned, I suppose it was an easy decision to use them again in Demons & Angels.

Personally I really like them as I only ever had them when my family were camping, and so subsequently think of them as “a treat.”
My partner had some Naked Noodles yesterday (curry flavour) and didn’t even finish them… The middle class ponce!
(I finished them. They were lovely!)

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I too encountered that glitch. I still have the game somewhere.
Another game I didn’t finish was the first South Park game. The one where you had to throw pissy snowballs.
Nowhere near as entertaining as the Meaning of Life game, but vexing all the same.
And then there was Batman Returns on the Lynx…

All tie-ins, I just realise!

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The Meaning of Life game had that organ donor bit in it.
I never completed that fucking game.

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Not sure if that link is for my benefit but I’ll assume it is. Thanks! But I knew you meant the series.
The series is based on the film.
If you’ve not seen the film, I’d give it a whirl. You might enjoy it. It’s a western in the same way that Gunmen is a western. I.e. not really. And it inspired one of the old, brilliant Simpson’s episodes.
With a dry, cool wit like that…

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Written by the admirable Michael Kryten.

Evangelical eh? No kidding.

I really like the film. Yul Brynner is fucking terrifying. And with a cracking set of jugs on him!

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Are you saying John hasn’t got a willy? What?

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Great point about the Silver Survey.
There’s definitely a split in “current fan opinion,” which is what makes these threads interesting.
Have you looked at the Male Top 10 vs the Female Top 10?
3 series VI for the men; 1 for the women.
Why did I bring that up? Bit sexist.

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G&T picked up on this and Tweeted about it earlier.

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>I introduced my girlfriend to the show [a few] years ago, and it was almost like watching it anew – I certainly laughed a lot more simply through the joy of her laughing. It’s an experience I’d strongly recommend.
She HATED VI.

Same thing for me. I remember being almost ashamed that I used to like VI as much as I did when we watched it together. Now VI feels much more like a childhood crush.

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Personally, until the BTE reboot, I think the show got worse with each series. Series I was my favourite, then II, etc. Now it seems to be getting better. Which is very positive.
Like a few people here, I didn’t notice how ‘middling’ series’ V and VI were (ironically) until recently either. They were great when I was an adolescent. Rapid one liners, big ideas, actiony sequences… gunge and smoke.
I still like those 2 series, but not based entirely on their merits.

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The way Doug’s been trying to recapture the past, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was going to be Clare Grogan.
Or Dona DiStefano in a hat.

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John! Hello!
Hope you’re feeling okay now, and that your mystery illness has fucked off. (I don’t think it’s been mentioned by name…?) Hope you’re on the mend.

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Dude. As an opinion, it’s fair enough. Don’t watch what you don’t like.
In turn I suggested that you don’t read things you don’t like. As a kind of “joke”. However, you failed to see the irony (as only a fan of series VIII would do), and took it at total face value. You called it a silly argument. I agree. It is a silly argument. Ahhhhhhhhh.

By the way this has nothing to do with your not conforming to the views of the ‘holy club’, as you put it. You just seem like a bit of a git.
Who says they “flame” people?!
Peace and love. TT.

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>>Just don’t read this thread?
A tad silly. Just don’t read MY comments? Just don’t go near a computer? Sit in a corner of a dark room, close your eyes and put your hands over your ears? Where does this end?

Exactly. And that was YOUR argument, you daft cunt. “If you don’t like it, don’t [read] it.”

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>Just don’t watch it – don’t wish to deny the majority the joy of more Dwarf.

Just don’t read this thread?

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Television X? Which is something I’ve never seen.

Not for more than ten minutes, anyway.

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I think that’s a Cat in Polymorph reference, but it’s crying out for a Barry White music cue.

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If it makes you feel better, I thought you were a woman too. Because that’s what you said you were when you corrected Ian on the pronunciation of your name.
I am like Sherlock Holmes.

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More a hypothesis.

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>Yes.

*reaches for scrapbook*

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Yes I believe they should. Because you can ignore series VII & VIII and BTE and great swathes of X and an episode of XI, and enjoy the good ones.
And who wouldn’t love another book or two.

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>That was a working title for KrytieTV, I believe.

Darrell done that earlier… http://www.ganymede.tv/forums/topic/after-17-years-do-we-need-another-fucking-opinion-piece-on-series-viii/#post-216543

Am I the only person taking notes?

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Nice M&O’H reference there.

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I had the comics of these. Beautifully detailed. Might give these a go, but remember the quality dipping in the later series…
(Another highly detailed comic strip I enjoyed was Calamity James in the Beano. The Beano’s only funny strip?)

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Did everyone else not assume they were tied on against his will* by someone else? A prudish parent, or draconian schoolteacher?

*Desperately not trying to type ‘Against his willy…?’ Fuck.

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I didn’t go to Twentica but Seb wrote that the street scene was pre recorded. Which accounts for it’s weird, stilted feel. E.g. when Lister looks at Rimmer for ages without saying anything in the car, while Rimmer pulls a funny face that the audience can’t see…

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They both have another book option each, don’t they.

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Here lies Rob Grant.
Red Dwarf.

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>Wanking.
Right, finished. What did you ask again?

Did a real Sid James at that. I have a cold.

Great thread. Is this something everyone can finally agree on? (I’m discounting the fighting thing as the answer is wanking.)

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I’d like a dispensing machine.

One of the Tony Hawks ones…not the more recent abominations.

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You’ve got to love Ben Elton. Or at least respect him. Or hate him.
Or feel indifferent towards him.

Amazingly bizarre and bizarrely amazing of him to point it out. I hope he still loves comedy as much as he used to.

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I sort of know that channel 4 don’t count online ratings when it comes to being recommissioned, but that knowledge isn’t based on a program that debuted online and sat there for a week before being shown on telly.
It’s mad they did that. Considering it’s not a show for young viewers but has fans of all ages.

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Oh man. I loved that Mr. Bean laugh.

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Well done for watching and thinking about VIII in such detail. I didn’t bother to watch it all when it was originally broadcast.
It really does seem like Ronnie Barker’s original idea for Porridge. Written by a child.

>The Cat, of course, is the Cat and he doesn’t have to grow up, just be there when a woofer is needed.

Irony.

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You rapscallion, you.
But I am happy to chat about the weather if you’d like.
Been quite autumnal today hasn’t it.
*twiddle*

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Just. You know. As someone else who is choosing to wait til the Dave broadcast I thought you might talk about something else. Like the guy who wrote “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” dying yesterday.
Or you know, whatever.
I’m twiddling my thumbs looking at all the Twentica threads clocking up…

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