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Just watched The Eleventh Hour, picture quality was amazing, love the new designs, Doctor’s garb is quite fitting. The only thing that bothered me, something that Davies did ad nauseum was the comedy, I was hoping it would be toned down with the Moffat era. Nice introduction to Smith, although I could hear echoes of Tennant in his voice. Title sequence isn’t anything breathtaking, I was hoping for a Smith’s face in there but alas no. Amelia Pond was excellent, good chemistry and I love how she is Scottish. Her boyfriend on the other hand didn’t really stand out, hopefully he’ll make it to Micky status and get his teeth into the part. All and all, it feels like a worthy start to the Moffat era.

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Certainly not crap, World War two may have been done to death but WAW packs a punch and has excellent gameplay. Nazi Zombies is astoundingly fun, magnificent online experience.

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Why all the wise cracks, this topic is based on something that has always pestered me about Back in the Red part 3 and all you can do is mock? It’s a very sensible question regarding the episode and yet no ‘Dwarfer’ here is interested in giving a logical response. You shouldn’t always parade on my topics considering I am asking honest questions. If I can’t rely on proper answers on a Red Dwarf forum then it’s a sad day.

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>They couldn?t in Series 1-VII because of all the JMC cut backs but when the nano bots recreated the ship it made Blue Midget more sophisticated, including an improved movement and sensors meaning it can ?dance?.

That’s an interesting theory.

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P.S. Could I get a logical response to the question and not some stoned manic sugar daddy’s idea of a wind up? Or is that too much to ask? I’m trying to create a nice little topic here about something I noticed in the episode, so could we have a debate on Red Dwarf and not silliness? This is after all meant to be the most prestigious Red Dwarf related forum on the net. I thought I could get some incite from fellow Dwarf aficionados.

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Yeah your avatar is quite scary, although horror isn’t the word I would use, maybe potato perhaps? Sorry, sorry edit, make that inside out potato.

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It’s just something I never understood about that episode, is Blue Midget entirely capable of being programmed to follow human postures or is it just due to the induced mind state?

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Ah my namesake, I am impressed. Are you sure it wasn’t me hiding in the Jukebox singing.

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I quite liked the idea of Spring Mario too, plus the Mario Bros cartoon that Ori-studfarm mentioned was one of my favourite cartoons when I was younger. I liked how the latter cartoon was based on Super Mario World(my favourite Mario title).

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Tony Hawkes would be a great Holly, I would love to see him back in a role on Dwarf giving his past history on the show.

I agree with Andrew that if we did have Holly back we would need to have him/her in a more grounded full role. I would love to see the idea that was thrown around back in like series 5 where the crew would actually cross through into Holly’s mainframe. A Holly central episode would be great, but I think those days are gone, if he/she comes back I think it will be in the vein of series VIII appearance. Maybe the odd wrist watch gag here and there when the crew are off ship would be nice or appearing on Kryten’s chest monitor which I always felt was underused.

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PLus he’s good at doing impressions.

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Thanks for all the comments, they seem to be varied which is good. I watched Beyond a Joke last night and I have to say I really enjoyed it, even the scenes with Able. I loved the whole Jane Austin sequence, the way Kryten picks off the sisters is classic. The CGI holds up ok strangely, sure the blur effect can be very noticeable but it isn’t terrible. The odd model shots inserted are a breath of fresh air, I love seeing a model of Starbug with it’s support struts turned up.

Ouroboros is my favourite of series VII, just because it answers the big question of Lister’s past something which was touched upon in The Last Day. Plus the scene with Rimmer and Lister three million years earlier really reminds me of series 1 and 2 banter between the duo. It really feels like a continuation of the old style Rimmer and Lister’s hawaiian shirt mixed with his leather waist coat seemed like a blending of the earlier series with the later.

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Sounds like a very neat idea, I love all podcasts that deal with Dwarf! Sorry to hear that it didn’t materialize first time round.

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Whoops, forgot to do a link

http://www.reddwarf.co.uk/news/2009/11/13/wanna%2Dbe%2Dduane%2Ddibley/

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I thought they did a good job with the Smeg up’s given the limited time scale and the size of the production, they managed to squeeze in some decent material.

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I feel for you buddy, I really do.

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I would never go as far to say the relationship between Lister and Rimmer could be classified as friendship. I certainly think that as Muz mentioned in relation to Marooned, there is a tolerance between the two. While in said episode, Rimmer spurs Lister on to survive, not out of friendship but out of Rimmer’s sense of duty and love of coercing order to others.

Take another episode now, Stoke Me a Clipper: Lister looks distinctly uncomfortable with having to honor Rimmer at the funeral. He does however try his best to keep the pretence that Rimmer has died and not Ace.

As for Blue, well Lister himself is disgusted with the prospect of missing Rimmer and is proven that his feeling of loss is completely wrong found by the end of the episode where he recalls just how bitterly he related to Rimmer and all his traits.

Also, in the article on the official Red Dwarf website, an analysis on the character of Rimmer defines his personality and relationship towards Lister perfectly; Rimmer hates Lister, he never embraced a false persona to keep the last human sane. Merely acting as he was, the irony is that Rimmer fitted all the right categories to keep Lister alive. He only really cares about himself. That’s why he’s the character we love to hate.

In the novels I feel that there is a distinct difference with the relationship between the two in comparison to the TV series. Rimmer’s empathy towards Lister is never shown to the same degree as in the Better Than Life novel. The fact that TV Rimmer and novel Rimmer are parallel equivalents spells this out. TV Rimmer is more anally retentive, bitter towards Lister than novel Rimmer is.

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Are they figments of imagination though, I thought it was all established that both time travelers came into a true version of the past with real characters?

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Wow Carl, how did Future Echoes hold up on the small screen compared to the strip? Were you surprised with the gray sets and lines on Norm’s face?

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I love the art styles of the comic strips, they are so varied and captivating. Great colour and nice touches to the design of the interior of Red Dwarf. I liked how in the adaption of The End they completely reworked all the gray sets with the sleak look of the cream coloured Series III to V production style. Also the nice touches in costume design, utilizing and paying homage to Lister’s Hawaiian shirts with his leather jackets and deerstalker. The comic strip version of George McIntyre was very scary though indeed. I just loved how the artists created an alternate version of the early shows. Of course many of the strips were original stories, but it’s nice to look at episode adaptations to compare them with the actual shows themselves and the novels.

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I watched the first episode of series 2 and noticed that the opening titles lack the dazzle, polish and style of the era, that Life on Mars managed to capture with the 70s. Still I like Gene Hunt and even though the series doesn’t have the wow factor of its parent; with the replacement time traveler Alex Drake having woken up in the 80s, it’s just a rehash of Sam Tyler’s character. It would have made more sense for Gene Hunt and his motley crew to carry on in their own time without any ‘companions’ from the future. It diminishes the concept from Life on Mars. It’s still a very watchable show – well made, good script nailing the seriousness of the crimes with blatant humour and great characterizations.

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Robert Bathurst?

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Well she would certainly need about an hour for each cheek I would have thought. Gives you enough time to make a cup of tea with a brand new tea bag.

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Favourites

Series I – Balance of Power
Series II – Stasis Leak
Series III – Marooned
Series IV – Dimension Jump
Series V – The Inquisitor
Series VI – Psirens
Series VII – Ouroboros
Series VIII – Back In The Red part one
BTE – Part three

I find it really difficult to relegate any Red Dwarf episodes to a least favourite category but here goes.

Least favourites

Series I – Waiting for God
Series II – Parallel Universe
Series III – Timeslides
Series IV – Camille
Series V – Holoship
Series VI – Rimmerworld
Series VII – Epideme
Series VIII – Only the Good
BTE – Part Two

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Hello monokeeloX welcome to G&T. What did you make of the Back to Earth specials?

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> You never know, they could be quite? handy?

Well not if you wanted a light bulb changed.

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Tony Hawkes.

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Norman or failing that, Ross Kemp.

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Thanks Timestone, I love Sonic the Comic, use to collect them when I was younger.

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Starbug crash landed on rocks. I remember seeing a Red Dwarf mug on TOS but alas it’s no longer available.

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Fansmeggingtastic!

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Enough of your twoddle representative Lee. The banners are magnificent, they have certainly added depth to Ganymede and Titan. Bravo.

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I’ll see you in ten minutes, with a hack saw.

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I’ll have a dry white wine and perrier for me please.

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Well that sounds absolutely delightful. It’s just brimming over in dollops of sweet goodness. I hope your right about the cover. It’s been ten long years waiting for this moment. Huzzah!

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Well you know what Rimmer has always said about having short hair.

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Not if I can help it, I’m more of a Radio 4 chap myself, plus Radio 2 but only for Jonathan Ross.

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Amen to that. Rest in peace Jade. Anyone who has the utter hell of going through cancer all deserve the same respect. None are more special than the other. I was never a big fan of Jade but I feel loss at the utter tragic misfortune of being taken so young.

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Hi there I found this site a few years ago. It only has the first comic story as a scan. They never updated it to scan more stories. http://www.geocities.com/area51/lair/2548/smegazine/theend.html

Since I first discovered the site I managed to get volumes 1 and 2 of the Smegazines on ebay. Watch out for them as they appear occasionally in sets on ebay and usually go from around 20 to 30 pounds.

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Breathtaking film; excellent story, actors, sets and visuals. No restrictions. The whole look of the film breathed realism. The pacing was perfect and the plot of course intriguing, there was never a dull moment.Not a generic superhero movie like Spiderman and Batman. A defining move in cinema. The most important comic book ever to be adapted to the silver screen.

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Welcome Jake! This site in my opinion is the best Red Dwarf fan collaboration on the net.

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I’m sure The Mirror’s columnists have had a few in their time. It’s not exactly breaking news and isn’t surprising given Craig’s publicity in recent years. He got legless nightly shooting Red Dwarf for probably most if not all the series. He still turns up and hits his marks, remembers his and everyone else’s lines. So what, he got caught drunk, falling over. What celebrity doesn’t in this day and age. We are in the age of repression I suppose. Shame The Mirror can’t follow all those Eastender stars who ‘shame’ themselves. They seem to be devoted to Craig. Quite scary indeed.

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That was quite good that little joke there!

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What a shame did he get lost? Be a gentleman and direct him in the right direction.

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All in a day’s work when your a Red Dwarf fan Davey boy. A purist moaner I thank you.

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>?Emohawk?. Actually, is there a band called Emohawk? there should be?

Yeah it would be a quirky name for a band. Better than ‘The Smeg and the Heads’ anyway.

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I got the Starbug playset manufactured by Product Enterprise. I would be tempted to by the Corgi models but since they don’t have the original Red Dwarf(as per series 1 to 5, and it’s brief appearances in 7) I don’t really fancy the Remastered ship. Would have been nice if they made the original ship as well as the Remastered so everyone can be happy. But it’s not a huge deal, it’s not even a moderately sized deal, it’s just a quibble on my part, call me a purist…or a moaner.

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Well considering Nintendo in my opinion was the best place to be, always has been. They tick all the boxes, that other platforms don’t. You can like graphics, and go with MicroSoft or you can like quality games that deliver great story, great characters, and a long lasting appeal. Plus Rare was in it’s heyday when it was with Nintendo, look at Goldeneye, look at Perfect Dark, look at Banjo Kazooie. And of course Conker’s Bad Fur Day. Perfect Dark Zero was a lame sheep dog waiting for those double barrels. So you can say ”but yeah it wasn’t that bad at all for the company, but for the fans of Rare games it was quite a wrong turn indeed” But that’s just my view of course make of it what you will.

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True, we have had more in DVD extras, that other franchises, like Black Adder, and Fawlty Towers should have delivered. Red Dwarf has given it in spades, we’ve had more than a belly full . The sheer depth and effort into the production of the DVDS is astounding.It’s been a pleasure to be a Red Dwarf fan since 1998 passed, not that it hasn’t always been.

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>I?m just happy we?re getting new Dwarf to be honest, but what?s nice to know is that even though Red Dwarf stopped in ?98 we really have been steadily getting new things to watch and gawp at with the DVD?s, not to mention things like Bodysnatcher and Identity Within. As Red Dwarf fan?s we really have been given ?new? material pretty much constantly since VIII ended. We don?t really have THAT much to complain about?

Apart from the lack of genuinely sublime gags…bar BodySnatcher of course.

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