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  • in reply to: Unintended recurring themes in episodes/series #240342
    Flap Jack
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    Well I was imagining it like Samsara, where the dead bodies were skeletons or something. Or maybe they’d just be lying face-down or something so you could only see their bums

    I mean, it’s possible it would have ended up that way, but in my experience if people are describing a skeleton, they say “skeleton”, not “dead body”, and they don’t usually need to explicity say that the skeletons aren’t wearing clothes.

    Although even in Samsara the sexually suggestive skeletons were enough to up the DVD rating to 15. The BBC might have been OK with that level, but definitely wouldn’t have been OK with piles of naked, dead arse-cheeks.

    Of course, they could have just not shown it or cut around that part, too, so it’s clear the whole story was just too disturbingly sexual and violent.

    in reply to: Unintended recurring themes in episodes/series #240277
    Flap Jack
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    To be honest, I don’t see how Doug thought that was any more inappropriate than all the sexual magnetism shit in Back In The Red. I mean, it’s basically the exact same thing

    Uh…

    The tone and content of the story-including sight of piles of nude, dead bodies– was unsurprisingly considered inappropriate.

    Yeah, no idea. Basically the same level of inappropriateness as Back in the Red. Mmhmm.

    For real, though, would Phwoaarr have existed alongside the sexual magnetism virus subplot from BITR? Seems more like a Bodysnatcher/Me^2 situation to me.

    Thank goodness it didn’t happen, anyway. There was quite enough magical rape and voyeurism in Series VIII as is. We didn’t need an entire episode dedicated to characters not-quite-consensually shagging each other. Respect to Doug for at least having that much sense.

    in reply to: SERIES XIII / XIV EPISODE IDEAS #239977
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    The problem with this thread is that it’s only good for Series XIII and XIV. What do we do when we want to come up with ideas for Series XV episodes or Series XXIX episodes? Go off topic? Not gonna happen.

    I pledge my loyalty to the original thread.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239976
    Flap Jack
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    Overall I enjoyed this series a lot, but it didn’t exactly wow me as I was hoping it would. Love both Doctor and companions though. It was nice to get a series of Doctor Who whose episodes were largely self-contained and unpretentious for a change, even if that’s a low bar to clear.

    Here’s hoping next series they bring back multi-parters, work out how to make room for all 3 companions in each episode, come up with some more memorable villains, and generally just improve upon Chris Chibnall’s overly expositional and shallow writing style.

    Also, Series 12 is “early 2020” so I guess that’s more of a gap six months than a gap year. It’s still disappointing to wait so long after they got such good momentum going. It’s bad enough we only got 10 episodes rather than 12 or 13!

    I wonder if they’re doing a Christmas special in 2019, or a another New Year’s special in 2020… or neither?

    in reply to: Best and Worst Members of G&T #239827
    Flap Jack
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    Best: smoke me a kipper, for starting the most successful (in a sense) G&T thread, and also for having the wisdom to not actually continue participating in it.

    Worst: Jawscvmcdia, for starting a thread which threatens to turn us all against each other when we should be celebrating what we have in common and engaging in healthy debate.

    And for having a difficult to spell username.

    in reply to: Classic Doctor Who seasons on Blu-Ray #239798
    Flap Jack
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    The animated releases are done by a different team to the Blu-Ray sets (with some crossover of personnel). One doesn’t have a bearing on the other aside from avoiding each other in the release window.

    Yes, but presumably the budgets for both of these teams come from the BBC at large, which has limited resources. It’s certainly true that they could release more missing episode DVDs per year without releasing fewer classic Blu rays, but “How much money do we want to spend on Doctor Who home video releases?” has got to be a question that’s discussed before the question of how much each sub-team should do.

    OK, I probably am just wrong about that, but still: they should do more missing episode DVDs. 1 of them every 1-2 years is just not getting it done.

    They have made a commitment to release the first 26 seasons. They are already filming extras for releases way into the future. Season 17 has had stuff filmed for it even though that won’t be out until likely 2020 at the earliest (2019 is Season 18, 10, 26 with 14 also rumoured).

    Whoa, where did you hear all this?! If that’s true, it’s good to know. Given how long that’ll take, I wonder where the Blu ray format will be by the end of it.

    I’m fascinated to know how they plan do to Seasons 1-6, too. Animated reconstructions for all the missing episodes? Still image/telesnap/arration reconstructions? Just not including the missing episodes at all?

    Also, Seasons 4 and 21 will somewhat mess with the US “Lead Actor’s Name – Season X” labelling, won’t it?

    They definitely need to stop referring to it as Limited Edition Packaging. I’d dare say they’ll wait until everything is out and release complete sets for each Doctor in none limited packaging.

    You’d think they wouldn’t repeat this mistake after Season 12 pissed people off, and YET.

    The fact that they’re planning Blu rays for all of Classic Who actually makes it far more weird that they’re limited edition. You’d think they’d want these new HD versions to be the standard versions of the stories going forward, and so they’d want people to, you know, actually be able to buy and watch them.

    Of course they might well do non-limited versions in the future, but it just seems so arbitrary. Especially if they’re only in the form of complete sets for each Doctor. With this non-chronological release order, those will take flipping ages.

    in reply to: Classic Doctor Who seasons on Blu-Ray #239741
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    These Classic Doctor Who Blu ray releases continue to be baffling. The actual content of them seems excellent (disc errors aside), but:

    • They make them extremely limited for no apparent reason.
    • They mislead everyone by labelling them “Limited Edition Packaging” when they should just be “Limited Edition”, and even tell people there’ll be further printings before going back on it.
    • They keep quiet about the scope of the project – are they planning to release all 26 classic seasons on Blu ray over the span of a decade, or just a select few?
    • The choice and order of seasons has no rhyme or reason to it as far as I can tell – Seasons 12 and 19 make sense (different Doctors’ respective first seasons), but Season 18?? A second Tom Baker set for only the third overall release? And not even one of his best ones?
    • Both releases so far have been delayed by weeks, yet still have reported technical issues.

    These Blu ray sets are a cool idea, but I wish the release and marketing weren’t so slapdash. Maybe the BBC will get their act together as they go along, but it’s not been a promising start.

    It’s also frustrating to feel like I need to re-buy these stories for superior picture and extra special features, when I only just finished collecting them on DVD this very year. That’s just not good for my inner completionist.

    I’d kind of prefer if BBC Video focused on making animated reconstructions of missing episodes for DVD (as with Power of the Daleks, Shada and The Macra Terror) instead of this. Plenty to cover there.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #239010
    Flap Jack
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    Spacetime Travel Atomizes Soap In Shower; Lister Eventually Attracts Kochanski

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #239006
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    SNAP for “Aggravates”, Dave!

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #239005
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Spaceship’s Authoritarian Morality System Aggravates Resident Adulterers

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #238980
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Canaries’ Assignment: Stop Singing And Nearly Die, Relays Ackerman

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #238978
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Todhunter, Hollister, Everyone’s
    Expired; Nuclear Disaster

    in reply to: Best And Worst Episode Endings #238453
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    How do we categorize episodes which have endings that are decent on their own, but are made worse retrospectively by the beginnings of the very next episodes immediately undoing them?

    Balance of Power and Parallel Universe the key offenders here.

    in reply to: Who has has a Red Dwarf dream? #238452
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Oh yeah, every one of my Red Dwarf dreams has had it as some huge epic drama. My brain can’t do comedy when it’s asleep.

    You dream about the novels?

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Strictly Come Dancing’s Danny John-Jules may have collapsed during training, but don’t worry, Red Dwarf’s Danny John-Jules is doing fine.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #238395
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    EPIDEMONS AND ANGELS

    The Dwarfers discover that Epideme triplicated itself before it was defeated (because the triplicator was still working and on Starbug, for some reason). This created a Pure Good Epideme – who sounds like Terry Wogan – and a Pure Evil Epideme – who sounds like Jimmy Saville. The reason that the Epidemes haven’t been noticed until now is that they’ve been locked in a secret, unending battle for the lives of the crew.

    Anyway, long story short, everyone dies.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #238373
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Ah, good to hear. I just wanted to err on the side of caution, because I definitely did jump the gun on page 9 meta jokes.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #238369
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I’m sorry, Dave. :-(

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #238353
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    IX OF THE BEST

    Ganymede & Titan forum posters are shocked to discover that the eagerly anticipated ninth page of the ‘Idea for an episode’ thread is capped at 100 posts and is labelled as “N/A” in the site pagination.

    Though confused, they assure themselves this means that it’s a special page, and the next page will be Page 9. When they find out that the next page is “Page 10” somehow, they storm Ian Symes’s Ibiza mansion to demand answers.

    “Look, I don’t know what you nerds are so baffled about. It’s extremely simple!” he shouts from his balcony, visibly exasperated. “There is no Page 9 of the ‘Idea for an episode’ thread, the ninth page is Page 10, and the 100 posts in-between Pages 8 and 10 don’t count as a page, even if it exhibits all the characteristics of one – it’s just N/A. Duh.”

    The mob of forum posters figure that even though this was in no way a satisfactory answer, they’re probably not going to get a better one. So they decide to give up and go to the beach to play basketball while on Viagra, in recreation of the fan favourite Red Dwarf episode, ‘Timewave’.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    *clears throat* That’s SHELLDER, in fact.

    Luckily my biro did not have an autocorrect function.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    At one point in my childhood I spent hours writing out a complete list of Pokémon in Pokédex order, but adjusted so that newer evolutions were grouped with the Pokémon they’re evolved from, and expanded to explicity include variants such as Crystal Onix, Spiral Shelter and Baby Kangaskhan.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    There’s that deleted Dear Dave scene where Rimmer says that Lister has “old sperm”, and I’m sure it must have been alluded to at least once in Fathers & Suns.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #237937
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I really liked it! Very odd that there were no opening credits, though. I hope that’s not the new normal.

    in reply to: What's the best CGI ever? #237914
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Gollum from The Lord of the Rings always sticks in my mind as an amazing example of a fully CGI character in a live action film. That level of animation and photorealism has become pretty common nowadays, but for 2002 it was incredible.

    Though I suppose it could be argued that the true *best* CGI effects are the ones where you don’t even realise it’s not real, like how New York is basically entirely CG at the end of The Avengers.

    in reply to: Talking about things being non-PC #237866
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    It always baffles me how some people think that art criticism in general is fine, but if the criticism is at all political it somehow becomes a violation of the artist’s human rights.

    Artists/filmmakers/studios etc. can use their free speech rights to make art however they like, and others can use those exact same rights to speak out against that art, regardless of whether the complaint is “I can’t believe Warner Bros. would cast a known domestic abuser in a blockbuster franchise” or “I can’t believe Doug brought back the pencil ship design, what the hell?”.

    Ultimately democracy gives people the freedom to sell, but also gives people the freedom not to buy.

    The type of online randos hypothetically shouting tombow down for voicing “PC” opinions aren’t genuinely anti-censorship, they just don’t want to confront or admit the real reason why they disagree.

    in reply to: Series III Certification #237825
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Oh, so Lister talking about being a victim of rape in Marooned gets a higher age rating than Rimmer talking about being a perpetrator of rape in Confidence & Paranoia?

    DOUBLE STANDARDS, BBFC.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    It would be silicone hell, because the kind of people who’d think that Red Dwarf fandom is a good unifying basis for a country are also the exact kind of people who would resent the idea that being a fan of Red Dwarf no longer marks you as clever or special, and would be insufferable to live with as a result. There’d be a class system based on how much trivia you can remember, the politicians would all act like Rimmer at his worst, and anyone who admitted to liking Timewave would be sent to concentration camps.

    in reply to: has anyone ever eaten a Shami kebab? What are they like? #237540
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I believe that the recipes for Pot Noodle have changed a lot over the years, and in the era of classic Red Dwarf they were much worse. Pot Noodle’s crapness was memetic, kind of like a UK-specific variant of “What’s the deal with airline food?”.

    in reply to: Should Holly return as a recurring character? #237496
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I think that as long as Series XIII isn’t even announced, any specific plans for it are very much up in the air.

    in reply to: Should Holly return as a recurring character? #237488
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Yes, but only if it’s the Hattie Hayridge version. Putting the 4 regulars with Hayridge Holly brought us Series 3, 4 and 5 – the best series ever. Putting the 4 regulars with Lovett Holly brought us Series 8 – the baddest series ever. No contest here.

    Also, it’d be great if Hattie got another shake of the coke can, given that she never got the spotlight that the first Holly did.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #237478
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    BLU HOLE

    Kryten spends 4 weeks glumly staring at the gap in his shelf that he’d made specificially for the Androids Series 1-8000 Blu ray set. Eventually he realises that the ship has drifted into range of a blue hole, which spews time in a way that causes Blu ray delivery dates to be perpetually 3 weeks away.

    REGION

    In order to avoid the dreaded frame rate speed-up, some excited North American Red Dwarf fans import the Series 1-8 Blu ray set from the UK, only to discover that they’ve been locked to Region B and therefore can’t be played.

    BLU-RAY-BOROS

    After noticing that the release date for the Red Dwarf Series 1-8 Blu ray set has been pushed back yet again without his knowledge, Doug Naylor discovers that the reason for the delay is that the master copies of the set went missing a day before production was due to begin! Desperate to resolve the problem, Doug endeavours to travel back in time and steal the masters before they go missing.

    in reply to: Dirty Feed #237435
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I don’t think I’d even heard of Cheap, Cheap, Cheap until now, but it was a good read regardless!

    Based on your description, it sounds vaguely Shooting Stars-ish. Colour me moderately interested.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I’d agree that Ace Rimmer is very James Bond-ish, but Stoke makes him more of a super hero because he considers it his responsibility to protect the universe in general, not carry out missions assigned to him by the agency he belongs. He’s more like an intergalactic Batman than Bond by that point.

    I suppose my distaste for Stoke’s plot comes down to the “destined to be a hero” idea being a trite cliche that good Dwarf would take great care to avoid. In Back to Reality that idea is just a joke, but 5 years later they’re playing it straight.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Rimmer overcoming his neuroses and becoming a straight up hero makes perfect sense as a conclusion to his story, because that was always the ‘beyond the horizon’ point for his character development. If Craig had been the one to leave, he probably would’ve ended up with Kochanski.

    However, there are some serious issues with the way this was executed:

    – Rimmer becoming a hero is one thing; him becoming a near literal super hero is way too over the top.

    – The whole idea with the legacy of thousands of Rimmers becoming Ace one after another makes Rimmer too important to the universe, and it makes no sense and I hate it. (One man to protect the entire multiverse?)

    – Rimmer becoming Ace and leaving happens far too quickly to feel natural.

    – Lister’s plan to pretend to kill Rimmer as a virtual knight is utterly stupid, and him faking his death really makes Lister the villain of the episode, because he lies to Cat and Kryten for no reason, causing them to mourn someone who’s still alive (um, you know what I mean). Frankly he got what he deserved when Kryten did the same to him in Back to Earth.

    – Rimmer didn’t become Ace because he wanted to help people (because Ace has no specific people to save or grand mission to carry out), he just did it out of a desire to fulfil his personal potential. That’s not heroism, that’s egoism. Granted, he does genuinely overcome his cowardice for this, but it’s half-baked as character growth goes.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    > flapjacks, which is a sort of hoity-toity posh git’s food

    Um, they’re really not.

    *clears throat*

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Maybe Lister’s self-fatherhood and Rimmer becoming Ace are different enough that an Ace return wouldn’t work as well as Fathers & Suns did?

    In Ouroboros, Lister completes his time loop, his dramatic arc for that story is over, and he goes back to normal the next week. But with Rimmer becoming Ace, we only really see the start of that story. All character development happens off-screen, we never find out what happened with him, and as far as I recall Lister never even tells Cat and Kryten that Rimmer wasn’t actually double-dead.

    Also, Lister’s time travel mother impregnation is weird as hell, but it’s not out of character. Rimmer graduating into a confident, tough, altruistic action hero is completely at odds with his character, and only gets close to working in the context of it being his absolute final appearance, which it obviously wasn’t.

    So because of all that, an Ace return would either need to awkwardly address all those loose threads, or awkwardly dance around the fact that it’s not addressing any of those loose threads.

    A part of me would be well up for an episode that was properly about how Rimmer tried to be Ace, failed, and passed on the mantle to yet another parallel version of himself before returning to Red Dwarf, but another part of me hates everything to do with the “every Rimmer is destined to be a hologrammatic super hero” idea, and would rather Doug continued to pretend it didn’t happen.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Despite my earlier plot suggestion, bringing back Ace Rimmer in earnest is kind of a dead end for me.

    Because if you bring back Ace Rimmer, you’ve got to acknowledge Stoke Me A Clipper and what happened to our Rimmer when he became Ace in some way… but I really dislike that story and that character development. The idea of Ace Rimmer kind of loses its novelty if most every Rimmer in the multiverse is able to become him.

    It’s kind of like Fathers & Suns acknowledging Ouroboros. It was very funny, but was it worth reminding everyone of such a perplexing and melodramatic plot point from 15+ years ago?

    in reply to: Conservative youtuber Citizen X muses on CC/Lister's ethnicty #237393
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Even Olaf Petersen is more respectable and intelligent than Jordan. No contest.

    Anyway, don’t be too hard on yourself, tombow. No harm done. :-)

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Maybe Ben P was only here for the Jawscvmcdia troll posts, and this more serious topic was a ‘jumping the shark’ moment for him?

    Also, I hope he was only talking about G&T when he said he was done…

    This is why if you’re going to make a Dramatic Declaration of Departure from Dwarf Discussions, please do not be vague, lest I worry about your personal safety. Also, maybe consider sticking around? Y’all are cool people (mostly ;-P), and your voices would be missed.

    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Duane Dibbley – Yes, if it’s an adaptation of his Smegazine series based on the idea that the despair squid hallucination is the true reality.

    Ace Rimmer – Yes, if the Ace who appears is actually the original Rimmer who departed in ‘Stoke Me A Clipper’, revealing that the Rimmer we’ve been seeing for the whole of the Dave era is actually a second Rimmer hologram created after nanoRimmer died after the end of ‘Only The Good… ‘ (explaining why the UKTV Rimmer is a bit more of an asshole than BBC Rimmer). OG Rimmer would mostly keep up the Ace persona, so it’d essentially be a sequel to ‘Me^2’ and ‘Dimension Jump’ at the same time.

    in reply to: Are there any XI & XII publicity photos avaliable? #237344
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    THE PHANTOM THREAD. IT’S ALIVE. I CAN FINALLY DO MY REPLY.

    I dunno.

    in reply to: Howard Goodall is a fucking idiot #237338
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I feel like people are maybe overreacting to this thread a smidge?

    Spare Hand One linked to Momus calling Howard Goodall an idiot, and a total of two (2) people expressed some level of (but far from total) agreement, while everyone else disagreed resolutely. I know it’s a touch unpleasant, but it’s not quite the Two Minutes Hate…

    The real sin of this thread is that there’s nothing to discuss.

    “Howard Goodall’s a bit of a prick.”

    “No he isn’t.”

    “Oh, you’re right, he isn’t.”

    “…”

    “…”

    “…”

    “… yeah, I think I’ve got somewhere else to be.”

    in reply to: Howard Goodall is a fucking idiot #237330
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Anyone else seeing a thread under “Recent Replies” which doesn’t appear on the Forum page, and gives you a 404 error when you follow the link?

    Spooooky.

    in reply to: Howard Goodall is a fucking idiot #237322
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Unrumble!

    [starts reverse-punching teeth into people’s faces]

    in reply to: Conservative youtuber Citizen X muses on CC/Lister's ethnicty #237297
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Least appealing thread title on this site thus far? I think it might be.

    Step aside, “Which cast member has the biggest dick?”. Your term is up.

    in reply to: Howard Goodall is a fucking idiot #237290
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Boy, the journalistic standards of-

    [checks notes]

    – the Ganymede & Titan forums sure are slipping.

    To think we used to have threads with INTEGRITY like “What if Lister drank milk instead of lager?”, yet now it’s come to this. For shame.

    in reply to: Howard Goodall is a fucking idiot #237277
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    For what it’s worth, the only reason I didn’t charge in to defend Howard Goodall’s honour in this thread is that I assumed it was a given that he’s awesome.

    He was a regular interviewee on Cunk On Britain recently, and he was great.

    I mean, nobody who wrote such great lyrics for the Red Dwarf theme could ever be credibly regarded as an idiot!

    in reply to: Howard Goodall is a fucking idiot #237239
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    It’s weird that you’re bumping this thread today, because today is the day I unfollowed Robert Webb.

    Not due to him criticising Jeremy Corbyn, but due to his transphobia. He hasn’t had any outbursts or anything, but he’s made a number of dodgy statements already and people have been prodding him; it feels like it’s only a matter of time before he goes Full Linehan, and I do NOT want to be in that blast radius.

    in reply to: What if Red Dwarf VIII had been produced in widescreen? #237226
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    You’d be able to see more stuff in each shot.

    in reply to: Red any funny books lately? #237218
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    That is to say, you *should* try it out. I didn’t mean to order anyone around there.

    in reply to: Red any funny books lately? #237217
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Any of you folks read Giant Days? Because if not you totally try it out.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #237186
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    IDENTITY KRYSIS

    The ship receives a distress call from a mechanoid calling himself “Kryten” (David Ross). After rescuing him and bringing him aboard, the new Kryten claims that the last time he saw them was when he first told Rimmer to fuck off, 30/hundreds of years ago, and accuses Kryten of being an imposter:

    “Whoever this mechanoid is, he’s a deluded loser with a stupid, unconvincing Canadian accent and a complete lack of grace or knowledge about appropriate groinal attachment usage. I mean, come on! He doesn’t look or sound anything like me! He isn’t even wearing a suit!”

    Can the 2 Krytens learn to co-exist on Red Dwarf? And is Kryten really an imposter who’s only on Red Dwarf as part of some long-winded evil scheme?

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237167
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Wow, that’s a lot of new extras! Colour me impressed.

    Your move, GNP…

    in reply to: Rimmer's Uniform Colour #237147
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    I actually think Rimmer’s blue outfit is his best one overall. However, he’s had that colour scheme since 1993 (nano-Rimmer excepting) and it’s become very boring. The overly blue lighting for the XI-XII sets (and the Blue Midget parts of X) made him look dull against the background too, which didn’t help.

    So yeah, I voted for green. Red would be fine too, but the beige Series 1-2 outfit would be way too much of a throwback to have as his standard outfit.

    I also agree that having a bit more Series III-esque variance to his outfit – sometimes he’s in a T-shirt, sometimes he’s got a hat etc. – would help enormously.

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237128
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Wow, OK, I think you convinced me. I would have said that the sub-par packaging/labeling and the frame rate slowdown could probably be tolerated (as long as they remembered to pitch-correct the audio!), and that this particular release might not have cut out special features, but if an actual BBC employee in the know recommended you avoid it, that’s PRETTY damning.

    I’m sorry to hear that you lost your job, too. That sucks. :(

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237124
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    OK, that’s fair enough if there is a significant difference between the US and UK/AU versions of the set. (“Garbage” seems a little extreme, but I’ll trust that there’s enough justification for that description.)

    I forgot about the whole frame rate debacle. It’s easy to think that Blu ray frame rates are a non-issue in general when all UK Blu ray movies run at 24fps no problem, but I guess the BBC didn’t get whatever memo all the other Blu ray producers did.

    FWIW, DVD Land seems to deliver to the US. Or at the very least they deliver internationally in general and will let you add an American delivery address. I can’t exactly do a full test!

    in reply to: Cassandra #237080
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    It’s weird how Cassandra is a remake of Future Echoes, yet the Lister role is taken by both Rimmer and Cassandra herself.

    It just doesn’t make any sense for Cassandra, because if she can see literally every detail of her own future (unlike Lister or Rimmer), changing it ought to be extremely trivial.

    Assuming she has any free will at all, which the episode does.

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237079
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    (At Amazon, specifically.)

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237078
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Ah, nuts. They don’t ship to the US.

    A quick search reveals the American version of the set is still in stock for just US$44.99. You’re fine.

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237070
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    Not a bad shout. :-)

    Though taking shipping costs into account that’s still a 25-50% markup on the original price. I’d rather Red Dwarf avoided that fate.

    I’m also just bitter in general about the way the BBC handled that release. Labeling something as “Limited Edition Packaging” (not “Limited Edition” as a whole) and then making absolutely no announcement of more plainly packaged, less limited reprint for months after it’s completely disappeared from store shelves is incredibly annoying.

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237062
    Flap Jack
    Participant

    You mean every shop sells out of them in under a week, and then the only way to get them is off eBay for upwards of £100? No thanks…

    in reply to: Cassandra #237061
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    It’s possible, but you’d have to come up with an alternative explanation for how Cassandra wasn’t able to see that Knott wasn’t actually called Rimmer.

    in reply to: Cassandra #237051
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    The only way “He chokes to death, aged one-hundred and eighty-one, trying to remove a
    bra with his teeth” isn’t a lie is if 181 year old Lister goes back in time to when Cassandra was alive, boards the ship, and chokes to death right in front of her.

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237047
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    I think if there were going to be any alternate packaging editions of the Red Dwarf 1-VIII Blu ray set, we’d already know about it. Can’t let people lock in their pre-orders for the standard version when they might be willing to pay more for the Super Awesome Limited Edition Steelbook Version w/ Free Ebook of The Log: A Dwarfer’s Guide To Everything by Craig Charles!

    Big multi-series boxes aren’t really suited to be steelbooks anyhow.

    in reply to: Hitchhikers Blu-ray – Two Editions #237035
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    So what they’re saying with this is: 1 series of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy is worth the same as 4 series of Red Dwarf. I know which one I’d rather have.

    Hang on a minute! Why do HMV, Zavvi and Zoom list the Red Dwarf Blu-ray set as coming out on the 22nd October? Is it an Amazon exclusive for 3 weeks or is there a delay that only some retailers know about?

    in reply to: Cassandra #237032
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    Oh, it absolutely is exceptionally bad plotting. I wasn’t doubting that. But, headcanon-y explanations which vaguely make sense are there for you if you want them.

    I can somewhat buy that Cassandra would try the old “self-fulfilling prophecy” gambit, but the more pertinent problems are:

    – Punishing Lister by tricking him into killing Rimmer is needlessly convoluted.

    – Why even bother trying when she can see the future, and therefore already knows that the plan won’t work? Is she just doing it because she’s seen that she’s going to do it? Are none of Cassandra’s actions governed by free will?

    in reply to: Cassandra #237020
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    OK, hold on to your hats, people, but I think I just came up with a way that Kryten genuinely could have figured it out:

    It’s well established that Cassandra doesn’t know the future, she effectively just sees a video feed of it in her mind.
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    Since they were able to successfully trick Cassandra into believing Knott is Rimmer, it follows that she must have been unable to see the future scene where Rimmer concocted the plan, or the scene where Knott puts on Rimmer’s jacket.
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    Why couldn’t Cassandra see those parts of the future specifically? Perhaps she can only see the events that she will personally witness?
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    She explicitly predicts that the actual Rimmer’s death will occur in the laundry room, but Cassandra won’t be there to witness that.
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    So, Kryten reasons that either Cassandra is lying, or she only foresaw herself being told that “Arnold” had died that way. If the latter is true, they can just pull the same trick that they did with the Rimmer/Knott situation. Either way, Kryten can deduce from this that Rimmer is not guaranteed to die.
    (This also means she was definitely lying about Lister’s death at 181 too.)

    Of course, it still sucks, because it was an off-screen resolution dismissed by a single offhand line of dialogue.

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    Ha, I took approximately 10 seconds too long to realise what you were doing there. Perfect.

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    MAROONED

    The Cat decides that Red Dwarf’s exterior just isn’t fashionable any more, and convinces the others to paint it a darker shade of red. 5 minutes into the job, Lister and Kryten are mobbed by a horde of Red Dwarf fans breaking through the fourth wall to stop them.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #236917
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    FUTURE ECHOES

    Red Dwarf finally gets a new AI to replace Holly, Alexa. Everyone is given their own handheld device – or “echo” – to communicate with Alexa individually. It makes everyone’s lives more convenient with no ensuing conflict or surprise downsides. Alexa is never heard or mentioned again after this episode.

    Guest starring Norman Lovett as Alexa.

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #236916
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    DEAR DAVE

    Lister’s estranged bride puts a bounty out on him, causing GELFs, simulants, mechanoids and cat people alike to come after him. Will Lister escape with his marriage unconsummated, or will his friends sell him out for vast quantities of a currency they can’t even use?

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    POLY MORPH

    The crew meet a small plasticine creature who has a preference for being in multiple romantic relationships at the same time. How will Lister and Rimmer cope with the fact that they’re both sleeping with the same man? And will Kryten overcome his prejudice against stop-motion people?

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    Ah, that’s OK tombow. It’s not like you did something truly evil, like hating The Last Jedi.

    in reply to: Would you watch a Red Dwarf "reboot" with an all female cast? #236893
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    No, I not watch a Red Dwarf reboot with a female cast. I would of course, simply out of curiosity, check out ANY version or remake of Dwarf – even if they made one cast completely of American youtube alt-right commentators, I would check it out simply for the sake of being informed on Dwarf history. But women in the posse would upset me too much. It’s BOYS from the Dwarf people.

    “Boys From The Dwarf” is just a fun catchphrase that’s uttered only very occasionally, it’s not the title. There’s nothing in the core premise of Red Dwarf that requires the characters to be male.

    I did initially misread your post and thought you said you’d actually prefer the cast to be alt-right American YouTubers than women, which was even more alarming.

    in reply to: I just played some VR games for the first time #236884
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    The campaign for a Red Dwarf VR game starts here.

    It would be called Red Dwarf: Radiation Leak. You play as a mid-level officer on the mining ship Red Dwarf, just going about your daily routine. Then with little warning you’re painfully killed by a lethal overdose of Cadmium-2.

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    Also did Rian Johnson watch The Empire Strikes Back? He knows that Yoda was only acting like a goofy prick to test Luke, right? Yoda being a goofy prick in TLJ is bizarre.

    Ah, yes, it’s accepted fact that if someone’s behaves like a goofy prick for a particular reason, then they can’t possibly ever act like a goofy prick for any other reason. Like someone doing a fake sarcastic laugh at a bad joke, then later doing a real laugh at a good joke. Doesn’t happen.

    Maybe Yoda’s initial goofiness to Luke wasn’t even just an act, and he was genuinely enjoying screwing around with him, just as he was enjoying screwing around with him in TLJ… ? Nah, you’re right, it’s completely unbelievable and Rian Johnson must just be stupid.

    *CinemaSins “Sin Added” sound effect plays*

    I love a lot of what RLM does, but their Half in the Bag on The Last Jedi from December 2017 was unfocused and the recent Plinkett review was no better.

    The Half in the Bag review of The Last Jedi was so bad. They just went back and forth between making criticisms that would apply equally or more to The Empire Strikes back, and Rich Evans sarcastically going “No don’t you see that doesn’t matter because it subverts expectations, which automatically makes it amaaaaazing!”, and I’m like BITCH, maybe actually read the articles and essays you’re so desperate to mock, don’t just reference the headlines and pretend that was the entire argument.

    So, from that it was clear that the Plinkett review would not be worth my time. I even stopped watching Half in the Bag, because for the next few episodes they couldn’t stop themselves from taking every possible opportunity to make jabs at The Last Jedi. It just gets tiring if you’re interested in their opinions on unrelated films, but they keep going off track to remind you of one of their worst videos.

    It’s such a shame, because I know from their past work that they can do so much better than this hackery. Oh well.

    Best of the Worst is still pretty good, though!

    in reply to: Would you watch a Red Dwarf "reboot" with an all female cast? #236814
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    Also I don’t want to see anybody referencing the fight choreography in any other movie as a defense as again, that’s not what the discussion is about.

    Exactly! The discussion is about an all-female Red Dwarf reboot, innit. Anyone got any new casting ideas? My suggestions:

    Lister – Maisie Richardson-Sellers
    Rimmer – Daisy Ridley
    Cat – Michaela Coel
    Kryten – Gwendoline Christie
    Holly – Amanda Lawrence
    Kochanski – Felicity Jones
    Hollister – Laura Dern

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #236752
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    STARRED DWARFS – THE LAST MEDI

    Red Dwarf’s medi-bay is taken over by the tyrannically bureaucratic M-Nurse, who refuses to treat any crew member who hasn’t upgraded to the M-Corp system. With The Cat in desperate need of heart surgery, Lister is forced to go in search of their old Medi-Bot (Kerry Shale), who exiled himself from the ship in disgrace after the whole debacle with Lister’s dental work 8 years prior.

    Will Medi-Bot return to save the Dwarfers from the evil M-Pire, who are threatening to board Red Dwarf and force a full M-Corp upgrade? And will Rimmer’s mutiny against President Kryten go to plan in the meantime?

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    No, the most ridiculous way of showing Leia’s latent force powers would be if:

    – She confronts Kylo Ren.
    – She says “The dark side sucks bantha peen, son. I’ll show you the true power of the light side … FORCE SLIME POWERS: ACTIVATE!”.
    – Then she turns around, pulls down her pants, and starts shooting a stream of glowing green goo oiut of her arse, accompanied by a comically exaggerated fart noise track.
    – The green goo floats into the air, and coalesces together to form a 40ft tall replica of Mr. Blobby.
    – The Blobby beast comes alive and starts laughing maniacally, before charging at Kylo, all while shooting pink fireworks out of its eyes – the explosions from which are the only sound loud enough to drown out the sound of “Remember You’re A Womble” playing in the background.
    – Finally, one of the fireworks hits Ren square in the face.
    – The blue smoke clears to reveal a small baby lying in Kylo’s clothes.
    – Still with her pants down, Leia rushes over and picks up the baby.
    – Happy tears in her eyes, she says “… Ben? It’s you! So this is it… a fresh start. This time, I’ll get it right.”
    – She then force pushes baby Ben directly into Blobby’s mouth, and Blobby contentedly chews and swallows him.
    – “Not letting that little fucker get old eniugh to do fascism again” she says, before turning to directly face the camera and winking.

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    Yes, so enshrined in the canon it was only first revealed 38 years after the first movie beyond speculative theories never confirmed in the original three movies prior.

    “First revealed 38 years after the first movie”? She literally uses the force in both Empire and Return, and the latter movie makes it clear that this was the explanation.

    Like, did you need the film to briefly cut away to George Lucas speaking to camera, “Hi guys, just wanted to clarify that the reason Leia can sense the emotions of her friends and relatives across space? That’s because she’s Luke’s sister and can also use the force. You know, like how other force users such as Obi-Wan and Vader are shown to have that exact same ability? Yeah. Anyway, just wanted to make sure nobody thought that this was just a random, unexplained skill. Kthnxbye.”

    Also, R.I.P. Timewave Part Two, a classic username that will live forever in our hearts.

    Criticising another film is not a defense of anything, ever

    I get that, but when you cite that exact film as the perfect counter-example to the film you’re criticising, then I think you forfeit your right to make the “another liked film doing it is not an excuse” argument.

    Unless you were actually talking about the recent TV series, Empire, in which case I totally agree.

    “I love you/I know” is a much better “joke” (if you can call it that) than anything in TLJ, because it was in character and born out of the situation. It wasn’t a joke for the sake of a joke, it was Harrison Ford understanding his character perfectly and ad-libbing an iconic line.

    Well, I definitely laughed when I first saw it! I think the line’s iconic status has possibly made people forget how unexpected it was.

    Saying “the jokes in TESB were perfectly in character, the jokes in TLJ were just random and ruined the drama” is obviously valid if that’s how you read them. I vehemently disagree, but unless you eventually cite actual examples it’s not really possible for me to vouch for them.

    in reply to: Remember when Dark Star for 5.98 was a big deal? #236706
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    I just checked. It’s £1.50!

    They only seem to have 4 copies total in stock, though.

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    I feel like if you’re coming out of The Last Jedi trying to decide if a character has the right parentage to plausibly use the force, then that’s a sure sign you’ve decided to ignore the core message of the movie.

    Never mind that Leia is Luke’s sister – so if you must go by the genetic argument then she could easily be equally capable as him – Leia explicitly uses the force in no fewer than 3 other films, and enhancing your movement is like Standard Force Power C.

    Leia’s force-sensitivity is so enshrined in the Star Wars canon that Luke straight up says “The force is strong in my family. My father had it, I have it, my sister has it” in the trailer for The Force Awakens and it was no big deal. I even remember people being disappointed after the film itself came out and Leia only used her usual “interstellar empathy” power in it rather than pulling out a lightsaber and bouncing off the walls or what have you.

    Well, Rian Johnson finally let Leia use other types of force ability without it feeling gimmicky. But now this thing is also a reason to complain, apparently. ^_^

    I’ve never heard anyone calling BS over Luke being able to blow up the first Death Star without computer aiming, even though his force powers were nowhere near as foreshadowed as Leia’s.

    I’ve never heard anyone calling BS over Harry Potter being able to blow up his aunt in book 3 despite not doing any “Aunt Inflating” lessons in book 2 either. (OK, I know that was random as hell, but it just popped into my head as a similar example of instinctive, untrained magic usage.)

    Also, I’ll say it’s rather nice to be in a thread where I so wholeheartedly agree with Pete Part Three. It took disagreeing with most of the other people in this thread to achieve it, but still.

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    (Re Ben & Glen’s comments)

    Imagine liking a Star Wars film that undercuts dramatic moments with jokes…

    Seriously though, I genuinely can’t think of any times The Last Jedi does this. I remember jokes for sure, but not any that could be said to have ruined the drama.

    Otherwise:

    – The movie is not too long. I know this because making it shorter would require scenes to be cut, and there aren’t any I’d want to lose.
    – Leia using the force to fly through the vacuum of space is awesome and perfect.
    – “Bit rich for a Disney movie to criticise war profiteering” is one hell of a take. You do know that movies are written by writers, not executives? And even if they weren’t, Disney became massive by selling art, not by selling ICBMs to ISIS (as far as I know).
    – I have no idea what the character of Rose Trico did to warrant such direct bile – so much that Kelly Marie Tran was harassed off social media – but frankly I’m not sure I want to. The Finn/Rose arc was solidly good as far as I’m concerned.
    – Them finding a master codebreaker next to them in jail sure was a coincidence, but Star Wars as a series – and fiction in general – is full of coincidences. It’s the kind of thing you only complain about if you dislike the film for other reasons and want additional points to bolster your argument.

    Short version:

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    I don’t think the majority of Star Wars fans like TLJ either, the uses score on metacritic is 4.5, IMDb’s page is sponsored by TLJ so that’s that out of the window, and of the critic reviews knocking about there’s not one negative one, not one? Does anyone else find that suspicious?

    Metacritic user ratings are not a good metric to judge by, because most movie-goers are not Metacritic users, but a dedicated group of detractors will gladly go the effort of bombarding the page with 1 and 0 ratings to deliberately skew the average.

    Also there’s nothing “suspicious” about it being difficult to find negative professional reviews. Sometimes a film is just that good, or sometimes there’s just naturally a disparity between general audience and critical reactions. Pretty normal.

    Who cares about these characters?

    Do you know what was bold and different from Star Wars but still managed to be actually good? Empire.

    Empire was only the second film! It barely had anything to be different from !

    Unless you’re talking about the recent TV series, Empire, in which case I totally agree.

    The real tragedy is Finn, who was one of my favourites in VII but reduced (further) to comedic relief (like everybody else) for VIII

    This statement is absolutely bizarre to me, because if anything I thought that Finn had less comedy to do than in The Force Awakens, and his story in the film – where he starts with selfish motivations, but learns to genuinely care about the plight of the resistance, among other developments – was great.

    Actually I’d say The Last Jedi was bleaker and less comedy-focused than The Force Awakens in general. Don’t know what film they showed you, but this wacky comedy version of The Last Jedi doesn’t exist in my memory. (It still had plenty of funny moments, though, don’t get me wrong.)

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    Even if The Last Jedi were Attack of the Clones levels of bad, immediately remaking it would be the most unavoidably disastrous course of action Disney could take. It would completely alienate the majority of the audience (who liked the film), it would waste hundreds of millions already spent on Episode IX, it would confuse the fuck out of everyone, and most of the Last Jedi detractors would probably still hate it.

    The idea also presumes that all of the required cast and crew would be totally cool about doing this new film – a film they are almost definitely not under contract to produce, a film which only exists to trash another film they dedicated years of their lives to making. The idea is so unbelievably stupid that I’m still not convinced that the whole #RemakeTheLastJedi campaign isn’t just one big joke that got out of hand. Like, do they think that personally hating The Last Jedi has slid them into a parallel universe where it wasn’t a commercial and critical smash hit?

    I do recommend you follow the updates if you fancy a chuckle, though. They include such highlights as “Snoke – a fascist dictator who believes in the inherent superiority of evil – says that bloodlines are important for the force, yet the film shows that this is not true later. IS THIS BECAUSE THE MOVIE IS DUMB???” and “Our remake would respect the late Carrie Fisher by including her performance as stock footage, and also we’re completely changing the story. Somehow.”

    Thankfully The Last Jedi is not Attack of the Clones levels of bad, and is in fact comfortably one of the best 3 Star Wars films ever made, so we can all stop worrying.

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    That criticism of people who criticise the sequel trilogy always sounded dishonest at best to me, since perhaps the reason people don’t like the films is because they think they’re shite, rather than the mere fact that we had one film similar to and one film different from the original trilogy. If either of those films were actually enjoyable (and bits of TLJ were) then we wouldn’t have an issue.

    It is a little tricky to rebut criticisms of the Star Wars sequels if the criticism is just the conclusion itself rather than the reasoning.

    “This is shite.”

    “No, it isn’t.”

    “Yes, it is.”

    “No, it isn’t.”

    “But it is though”.

    “Not really.”

    “Well I say it is.”

    “I disagree strongly.”

    “Admit it, it’s shite.”

    “Nope.”

    “Not enjoyable though, right?”

    “Well I enjoyed it a lot.”

    “No you didn’t.”

    in reply to: Idea for an episode. #236643
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    BACK TO REALITY II – EMO-DORK:

    Having survived the suicidal gunshot that killed all 3 of his role-playing cohorts, Duane Dibbley finds himself wanted for their murders, and is forced to go on the run just as his real memories are returning. Will a clumsy, scrawny dweeb with very little social intelligence survive against the might of a totalitarian regime? And has Duane’s half-decade of living as super cool action star The Cat – from the hit AR game Red Dwarf™ – made him into a better person?

    in reply to: Bodyswap comic #236630
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    Yes, but what’s the adaptation of the Iliad that Lister’s reading in The Inquisitor?

    in reply to: Bodyswap comic #236625
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    I’m also fairly certain he’s flicking through a disguised Smegazine issue in ‘Legion’.

    Yet more evidence that the “real world” in Back to Reality is the genuine real world, they succeed in committing suicide at the end of the episode, and all of Series 6 and onwards is set in the afterlife.

    in reply to: Should Series XIII focus more on drama or comedy? #236614
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    Mechocracy had us worried initially, weirdly because it might not have been current enough – that the massive events which occurred between its recording and its broadcast would make it seem tone-deaf.

    In the end it was about presidential elections in such a generic sense that it managed to dodge that bullet. Little differences aside, it could have been made in the 90s.

    There’s definitely a parallel universe version of Mechocracy where Rimmer’s slogans are all like “Make Red Dwarf Great Again”, “We’re going to build a forcefield, and the GELFs are gonna pay for it”, and “350 million dollar-pounds a week for the MHS”, while Lister goes around pleading with individual robots to “for the love of fuck just vote for Kryten, because whatever legitimate grievances you may have with him, the other guy is a literal Nazi for fuck’s sake”. Then Rimmer would win with 52% of the vote, causing the episode to become a tedious and painful 40-part epic.

    Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think Red Dwarf should avoid being political, because all art is political. But it’s certainly advisable for it to avoid getting too specific with contemporary references.

    in reply to: Best And Worst Episode Endings #236580
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    Timewave’s ending is perfect, by which I mean I mean it’s equal in quality to the 30 minutes that preceded it.

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    “Language is fluid” doesn’t mean “Words have no consistent meaning at all, then???”. I don’t need to explain this, because it’s obvious.

    The evolution of “reboot” is interesting, though. It reminds of how originally “binge-watching” only described quickly watching all of a TV show which was meant to be watched one episode a week, in the era where DVD box sets where the big thing. But then Netflix Instant came along, and their shows were actually designed to be watched immediately one episode after the other. So now “binge-watching” means whenever you watch a whole TV series/season in one go, regardless of whether this is actually excessive behaviour.

    Just as with “reboot”, you may not like the way its definition has broadened through common usage, but them’s the breaks. :-P

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    *clears throat* uh, I meant “hear”, naturally.

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    I do agree that when people here “reboot” they probably do think of the “completely fresh start” type before they think of the “direct continuation after a significant amount of time has passed” type, but there’s still a level of uncertainty, and the definition still absolutely covers both.

    You just need to google a phrase like “x files reboot” to make that clear.

    Even if you’re sure that a reboot can’t be a direct continuation, Doctor Who (as Dave said) is a clear example of how “revival” and “reboot” are in no way mutually exclusive, and there’s always going to be edge cases.

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    I’m not sure if the people on the “it can’t be a reboot if it’s in continuity with the old version” side of things are certain that’s the definition, or would just prefer it to be that.

    Like, “that’s not what it means – it’s just that the media keeps misusing it all the time!” is not a great counter-argument, because as I said, language is defined by usage. If enough people keep using the word “selfie” to describe photos that also include people other than the person taking it, for example, then the definition will broaden to accommodate that.

    It’s not like “reboot” is a word the entertainment news media are appropriating either. That word – just in this context, obviously – pretty much only exists so that the media can use it to describe the phenomenon of shelved TV/film series making unexpected returns. It’s THEIR term, more or less.

    I think if the definition of a reboot were genuinely as strict as some folk here are saying, then when people see a headline like “There’s a Buffy Reboot in the Works!”, they wouldn’t feel the need to get clarification about whether it was going to be in continuity or not, just as they wouldn’t need to if the headline read “There’s a Buffy Remake in the works!” or “Buffy’s Coming Back For Season 8!”.

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    In any sense that would give the term any kind of meaning, Doctor Who 2005 is not a reboot.
    We have a word for what it is, and that word is “revival”. Why ruin the meaning of “reboot” by using it to mean that?

    Doctor Who absolutely is a revival, but a revival is just a more specific type of reboot. You might as well say “Doctor Who is not a TV Show, it’s a Sci-Fi Drama”.

    You can fairly point out that this definition robs the term “reboot” of some inherent specificity that would make it more useful… and yeah, of course it does. It’s an overused media buzzword, so it just is used in a very broad way, and therefore has a very broad definition. Nothing really we can do about that…

    To put it another way, if the Doctor Who revival had occurred in 2015 rather than 2005 – and all of its content was otherwise exactly the same – then you can bet that every single major entertainment news outlet would call it a reboot. Guaranteed.

    I’d also disagree that this makes the term useless. A “reboot” can just mean any TV/Film series which comes back after a significant absence, to be outright remade or just majorly retooled, and that’s OK. It’s good to have umbrella terms for things.

    in reply to: Played any new games recently? #236413
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    I’ve had that same problem with my PS2 becoming super noisy too, but weirdly it only happens for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. No other games.

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    Graeme Harper, who directed Caves of Androzani amongst other things, also directed episodes for New Who right from the get-go.

    Given that Graeme Harper’s last classic series story was in 1985 and his first new series episode was in 2006, I’m going to class this as “uhhh… kind of, but not really.”

    But even if Graeme was in both 1989 and 2005 crews, that wouldn’t prove that the 2005 series is not a reboot. The lack of returning crewmembers is just something which adds to the argument that something is a reboot, not the key determining factor.

    Also The Force Awakens being a remake of A New Hope (with elements from the other films) is surely common knowledge by this point.

    No, “The Force Awakens is noticably similar to A New Hope in a lot of ways” is common knowledge. “The Force Awakens is a literal remake of A New Hope” is a nonsensical assertion that I’ve not seen anyone earnestly argue for until now.

    in reply to: Played any new games recently? #236370
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    Sniper Elite V2 came out in 2012, which is perhaps stretching the definition of “new” a bit.

    Now, I’m sure you’re thinking “You? You’re trying to keep a thread 100% on topic? Didn’t you just yesterday post a lengthy defence of Star Wars: The Force Awakens in a G&T forum thread entitled “Would you watch a Red Dwarf ‘reboot’ with an all-female cast?” Doesn’t that make you a major hypocrite?”.

    The answers are: yes, yes I am, yes I did, and yes it does. Thank you for asking.

    in reply to: Played any new games recently? #236362
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    I’ve been playing Yakuza 6. I’ve been going through the whole series in chronological order since Yakuza 0 came out last year, and it’s been quite the ride.

    It’s a great time if you like being a fighting dad who is bad at committing to being a criminal but good at getting into shenanigans.

    Though some of the mechanical changes made between Y5 and Y6 have been a bit tough to get the hang of.

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