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I liked it when the females were all skeletons.

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Why do we hate Mark Kermode?

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THE SAGA CLOCHETINUUMS…

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That and skateboarding.

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Quite hazy but last night dreamt about a film I was raving about to a friend and then suddenly found myself in, something to do with a religious cult I was trying to escape from. Then it changed genre completely Rat Pfink a Boo Boo style when Red Dwarf landed on Earth and the crew took on the cult. The cult were the bad guys, might even have taken over the whole world by this point. Anyway, I was barely in it once Red Dwarf turned up. Kryten had a, seemingly human, love interest played by Fiona Allen. He also had bare feet the whole time, like we see when he gets naked in series VIII, but apart from his feet he was “clothed” as normal.

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That’s the mirror universe Lister with the mustache. Only in a deleted scene.

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> I DO always miss ‘yes God’ at the end of, er, The End

Oh I hate that, find it really cringey. So much so I suggested it as a low for the Holly moments High and Low article. Is High and Low ever coming back? I liked it.

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Winston? Do you mean Wilson, the Children’s BBC Broom Cupboard butler?

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Maybe my favourite film butler is Hobson in Arthur but I don’t think Hobson’s a good name for a mechanoid. Come to think of it, Lister and Kryten’s relationship is a bit like Arthur and Hobson’s.

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Just been looking at this: http://www.red-rose.com/www.cobalt.demon.co.uk/alt.tv.red-dwarf/reflist-tv-255.html

I didn’t know MAKE MY DAY was on the simulant’s gun in Justice.

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There’s the line about going back in time and persuading Dustin Hoffman not to do the much-maligned (unfairly imo) Ishtar. (I also once really enjoyed an amateur production of Run For Your Wife, but have never listened to an album by Olivia Newton-John.)

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> a hologrammatic wig with its own individual light bee

Sort of a toupbee, you mean? Oh come on, it’s nearly Christmas!

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Is that Kerry Shale?

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> I want to work in a clock museum now. Nothing else is good enough.

How about a cloche museum?

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Good hijack. I didn’t know about the convention of using IIII until I listened to the commentary on Back to the Future. Bob Gale points out that the clock tower is unusual for having a IV.

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Camille: This is what I really look like.

Kryten: Oh.

[credits roll]

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Oooh not a popular one, Seb.

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Definitely Hattie. Pretty much what Ian said, plus I genuinely think Hattie would be better suited to the show the way it is now than Norman would. If we’re talking about Norm’s various jeremiads and whinges over the years, let’s not forget his bizarre claim that he was upset about “the female Norman Lovett” being cast as the new Holly because he’d been promised they wouldn’t replace him with somebody like him.

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“Well I’m not fully qualified, but I’ve seen every episode of Chicago Hope.”

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Astonishing.

> I’m presuming you all know about the Latin Mr Bean translations and that the opening/closing say different things

Yep, but I’ve just had to look them up. According to Wikipedia it’s “Behold the man who is a bean” and “Farewell, man who is a bean”.

And everybody knows the piccolo part in the Some Mothers Do ‘Ave ‘Em theme spells out the name of the show in morse code, right?

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Her in the café in Backwards. The way she regurgitates that éclair, phwoarr!

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Hear, hear. When Craig was on the One Show a while ago he was on about how he’d left Corrie because he wanted to do various other things, mentioned RD, his poetry, his funk and soul stuff, and Alex Jones commented on how hard he was working and it must be tiring. It was something along those lines, and Craig replied “Well, not really y’know – I’m not digging ditches.” I liked that.

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Very interesting to hear Doug say BTE “wasn’t Red Dwarf – it was our ticket to get back into the game.”

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Topic bar in two episodes. Vimto, Brylcream, Choccy Nut bar.

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> Coca-Cola exists if memory serves

Yep, one of my favourite bits of the novels is the Nova 5’s mission to make a star go supernova to form part of ‘COKE ADDS LIFE’.

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> the answer is wanking.

As is so often the case.

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Cheaper than putting bromide in his tea in the long run I suppose, but he gets them off pretty easily, doesn’t he?

Not disagreeing btw – the reason definitely is to prevent him from wanking his cock.

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Nice little article, and after reading it I immediately found a really good, well written one on The Monkees and a couple of other interesting things, so yeah I will keep an eye on that site.

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Goodnight Sweetheart is the only one I’ve watched and I thought it was great. I’d love them to make a new series now, which is clearly the intention.

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Just finished reading this. Really impressive. Very skilfully done indeed!

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Many fans didn’t like Taiwan Tony.
Racial stereotypes make them moany,
But at Pree they went “Phwoar!”
Now they’re hungry for more.
Let’s all hope XI’s not pony.

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But the Series 4000 isn’t waterproof, is it?

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I didn’t care for And Another Thing… or The Tertiary Phase at all (and didn’t bother with the fourth and fifth series.) So, yeah, what Capps said.

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Only got that photo to go on but the mask looks really good to me, and I think overall I like the rest of it too, shape-wise. Wasn’t keen on the big shoulder hoops in X. I like the chest and the big monitor. Don’t like the sound of “all one light gray colour” though.

> They should have just added some multicoloured wires

Or given him one red arm.

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> I’ve seen 15 Storeys High many times and never noticed it was him.

You should turn up the brightness on your telly…

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Here he is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DimYzDqc478 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRp-763aMy8

I’m sure Lee Cornes is in Goes Forth as well but I can’t remember which episode or his character. He’s not in the Scarlett Pimpernel one though. That’s Nigel Planer.

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Ooh I spy lots of new ones!

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I’d forgotten about that character. I like him as the “cheese cheese cheese cheese cheese cheese macaroni…” man as well.

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Thanks for reminding me about this. It was absolutely brilliant.

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Well done, John.

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It was a good exit for Craig/Lloyd but Steve not being there to see him off felt all wrong. Apparently Steve was meant to be in the live episode but had to be written out because Simon Gregson was unable to take part due to illness. I know it’s all usually recorded weeks in advance but I’m wondering whether Steve getting shitfaced in the cellar in Monday’s episodes and having to sleep it off was concocted so there’d be a plausible reason for Steve to miss the party? According to Digital Spy Lloyd “will be back for one final appearance tomorrow to say goodbye to his best friend Steve”

> I suspect a return to the Street will be inevitable, though…

Here’s hoping for a Lloyd comeback special two-hander with Steve in a few years’ time.

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Ah, it is the whole trilogy in some places: http://www.odeon.co.uk/films/back_to_the_future_trilogy/16242/

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> What about the people Lister had eaten bits of when they were in dust form? Would they not be able to be resurrected?

For that matter, where did the nanos get any of the crew’s remains? Are we to assume something like the deleted funeral scene from The End happened at some stage, or did the skutters just sweep everybody up and put them in the bin?

Btw it’s “Petersen”, because he’s Danish.

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That woman in the cafe in Backwards and her éclair.

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> It still works if you don’t know who Felicity Kendall is

Was about to say exactly that. It’s like Rory Calhoun in The Simpsons. Also Felicity Kendall is a funny-sounding name.

> I’d agree Felicity Kendall wasn’t a good choice for the joke (instantly dates a future-set show)

For the most part I don’t like that sort of joke in RD but for some reason when it’s Holly I think they get away with it. I even like his QPR line in VIII, whereas I hate Lister calling the dinosaur “Barney’s ugly brother”.

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> some stuffy old comedy show, much like Last of the Summer Wine or of that period.

What, 1973 – 2010?

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In the words of Mike Yarwood, “It’s not easy to do yourself.”

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> I remember Douglas saying at the time of the tenth anniversary that he felt he owed the fans a really funny Red Dwarf novel after the dramatic direction of Last Human so it was definitely his intention to make series VIII as funny as possible too.

That’s interesting. You do have to wonder what Doug was thinking with VIII. I’ve said before that series is the RD equivalent to the Gene Deitch Tom and Jerry cartoons, except they really were made by people who didn’t quite get what they were meant to be doing and had very little respect or affection for what had come before. VIII just seems like it was. And yes it’s “bad television” but it’s fucking awful Red Dwarf.

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Sorry, that was in reply to performingmonkey asking where the missing Rimmer reaction shot is in Part 1. Hadn’t seen Ben’s post.

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