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Sorry, just remembered this is meant to be about Classic Doctor Who. Damn.

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My young cousins laughed their heads off at the smacked bottom line.

The bit before the Doctor goes into the TARDIS to regenerate, between his companions disappearing and him going inside, I found that moment poignant. I don’t really know why, and I don’t care to know. The rest of the episode was worth it for that.

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There’s absolutely no need to rag on Darrel.

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Drop the enormously successful and expensive Red Dwarf? The BBC did something similar in the 90s, didn’t it?

Darrell, I agree with you an all accounts. I hope I’m misreading the tone of the replies people have been sending you. They seem aggressive, but I could be inferring a tone which isn’t there. I just want to say your contribution to this forum is always great and I hope people aren’t putting you off.

Who is in charge of Dave these days? I’ve Googled but too much of an idiot to find the information, I guess.

I haven’t thought this post through.

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Thanks for agreeing with me, Ben! Whenever I give an opinion anywhere online I usually get anxious over how it’s going to come across, so it’s nice to feel justified.

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The Winnie the Pooh bit being all dialogue is infinitely funnier than it being done visually, and I’m pretty sure everyone making it knew this at the time. It’s all about Craig’s delivery.
I think the matter panel stuff works because it splits them up in a more original way than repeating things from literally the previous series. Plus cool effect for the time. Anyway, it manages to make Rimmer’s brainlessly boring story work better because it can be shoe horned in and yet it comes across as the actual plot of the episode interrupting what “should” be happening, which is Lister and the Cat having no escape from Rimmer’s risk story. It’s a well constructed beginning.

I’ve kind of always loved Meltdown and, I shit you not readers, I was gutted when I found out how unpopular it is/was. Looking back, it has similar ideas in it to series X-II, and like Jimboid said, it is much broader than something like Dimension Jump or Camille, but it just does them much better. Cured is probably a good example of having an idea close to Meltdown but doing it… not wrongly but certainly less successfully.

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Merry Christmas, Si. And everyone else! I didn’t get anything Red Dwarf-related, unfortunately, but all the same, hope you are all having, at the very least, the best day of your lives.

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Also, I entirely agree about the daftness of Kill the Moon being part of the charm. The fact that the show attempts to pull it off is great, even if the attempt fails (note: it didn’t fail for me). I hope the show edges closer to these crazier ideas than it is at the moment. It still seems to me that it’s lacking confidence in itself to do anything too interesting.

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I really liked Mummy on the Orient Express too, but it did cause one of the two non-family members I know who watch the show to stop. He thought Capaldi’s Doctor was too heartless in it. Not sure if he made it to the end of the episode though. Series 9 I like a lot of, but do find stretches of it intensely boring. The Viking one is one of these boring ones, and it’s a pretty essential watch to get the full impact of the finale, which I love but can understand people being put off.

Thanks for clarifying the Moffat statement and providing a link, I hadn’t heard his original plans got changed.

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Where is it said he intended to bow out with The Doctor Falls? I know he was saying he thought The Husbands of River Song was going to be his last while he wrote it, but I’ve never read that he wasn’t intending to do a Christmas special after Series 10.

I really like the last two-parter of Series 10, personally. The Lie of the Land is utter dross though and the episodes following follow suit until Word Enough and Time. I don’t see anything wrong with 11’s clock tower scene, though.

I’ve almost caught up with series 11, but haven’t seen the latest. I’ve heard it’s better than the previous episodes though, so hurrah!

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It’s all been a bit of a shrug for me, seeming like the writers aren’t really sure what they want to do so far. My cousins, though, who are target-audience age, they’re loving it. The youngest walked around Derby the other week quoting the whole bit in Rosa Parks which ends with Ryan saying “that’s good, because I don’t eat them.” This week’s was enjoyable fluff, I just want something more, but I can’t argue with children who say they love it.

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Thanks, I’m glad you got that one, Si. I’d have looked like a nutter otherwise.

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The episode was splendid. My heartiest congratulations to the writer-performers.

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It’s just a big bloody joke to you, isn’t it? Oh, Jawscvmcdia can’t give bad news, Jawscvmcdia is bad news. Jawscvmcdia posts on Ganymede and Titan and loses. His mam said he would win! He’s only eight!

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Danny John-Jules IS one of my loved ones.

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>Doctor Who is 33% amazing and 66% silly nonsense

I agree, but the 66% silly nonsense is what makes the 33% amazing.

But what do I know, I enjoyed that one with Robin Hood. Pure silly nonsense, that was. This new one was a bit po-faced, which is fine. The thing that I didn’t like was any attempt at humour, which fell completely flat for me. That Capaldi one with him running around the castle on his own, I loved that one, and I don’t think there was any humour in that.

Jodie Whittaker is good in the role but hasn’t had a proper time to shine yet. I’ve seen people comparing her to Matt Smith but I found her very different. She talked fast sometimes, yeah, but she seemed more in control of her performance whereas Smith seemed a lot giddier, usually, which was part of his appeal (I liked Matt Smith a lot). She’s also clearly the most human out of nearly any Doctor (the only way she can top Davison is by doing something even more Doctor-y than sacrificing her life for someone she just met). At first I found it a bit jarring going from Capaldi’s aloofness, but then I realised I actually enjoy the Doctor being actually likeable as well as admirable.

I’ve said too much. If you’ve read all of this garble, I’m sorry, I’m so so sorry.

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The episode that dare not speak it’s name? But it’s the Ideal episode.

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I avoided making the obligatory Series VIII reference because, even though they are tonally equal, Chuckle Vision is the far superior show at that point.

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I would watch a series with just Rimmer and Lister but only if it’s nothing like the Chuckle Brothers or the Two Ronnies. Those aren’t terrible shows, but there are tonally far away from what I want Dwarf to be.
It would have to be akin to the Derek & Clive album , only with every swear word replaced. “This Goit Came Up to Me”, “You Smegging Goit” and of course the classic “Winkie Smeggy Woo.” It can be called Dave & Arnold (Smegged).

I am not a professional comedy writer.

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Oh God, that light switch gag, it’s perfect. I also love “I’ve come to regard you as people…I…met.” It’s a funny line in itself but the fact that it’s Chris Barrie as Rimmer delivering it makes it one of the most hilarious.

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Read Toxteth O-Grady’s comment again but imagine my username next to it. That’s my post.

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Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K Jerome is the funniest book I’ve ever read.

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The What-If machine is responsible for this thread.

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I’ll take your word for it. Pete’s points refute a lot of the criticism I’ve seen online. I found the film unimpressive when I first saw it. I just found it a bit boring, but there’s nothing to be offended by in terms of storytelling. A lot of people are being ridiculous about it. While browsing HMV in Wimbledon there was a guy working there who said to two different customers “they killed Star Wars!” which is a pretty laughable thing to say. At least they took the “last” one out of the hands of the guy who made the fucking Book of Henry.

I would watch a reboot of Red Dwarf with an all female cast and I thank the creator that I don’t have to cast it.

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Thanks.

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I thought the BBC was no longer interested in the kind of audience Red Dwarf blah blah blah’d? When did that memo go out? I have no fingers to check myself.

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I thought the joke wasn’t “missing things are often found behind the fridge”, but the idea of being able to find missing memories anywhere. It’s not observational comedy, more the absurdity of that idea.

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He probably has re-written them in his spare time, but they were still shit so he’s kept it a secret.

With Cat and Lister being awful dickheads in Backwards, I think it works because they had become teenagers, and all teenagers are awful dickheads. Rimmer’s use of joshing is nothing compared to the phrase “fusspot indeed!” being used in a Red Dwarf book.

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Cat’s “except for me him and him” is a shit line.

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It fit with the rest of the series.

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Kryten does say “Oh I see, you mean me” afterwards but it’s a bit hard to hear over the audience, who are laughing for some reason.

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I enjoyed Moffat’s time on Doctor Who. That’s really all that matters to me. The criticisms you’ve posted above don’t bother me at all, I enjoyed Clara’s (from 8 onward, anyway) and Amy’s characterisations, and your points don’t diminish that. I didn’t like the second half of Series 10 a whole lot, especially the Lie of the Land, but my cousins, who are the the right age to be the target audience for the show, loved it.

By the way, what was that about Mac MacDonald not liking John Barrowman? When I read that I assumed that was going to be the focus of the thread, but maybe I’m the only person who doesn’t know about this.

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That’ll be all, shambles.

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I really liked Dirk Maggs’ Adventures of Sexton Blake, the Batman/Superman plays he did and the first Dirk Gently (his Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul wasn’t so good), but this is definitely unnecessary.

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Enjoyed the first episode very much! I added 15 dollars to the patreon thing, will hopefully be able to add more once I’ve sorted out my finances.

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Brilliant!

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I was in HMV with two friends and one of them saw Red Dwarf and described it as great, the other said he thought it was shit. At least now I know who to save in a life-or-death situation.

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It’s as good as Smash Bros always is. Do you think the lack of a proper story mode matters? I thought it would, but it’s just as fun as Brawl, possibly more so without having to worry about saving the game.

The new characters seem to be there for the hell of it, though. Maybe a bit gimmicky having the villager and the like there. Have you played as any of the new ones? Kirby’s the only character I stand a chance of winning the game with and, being a boring person, I stick to what I’m okay with.

I’d offer a friend code but it’s my sister’s DS.

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I’m sorry for your loss, Ben. I hope you and your family are doing okay.

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I believe the idea was that if the TV Movie had taken off they would have done remakes of old stories. I read that…somewhere…

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Don’t have twitter or a youtube account anymore, but wanted to say I enjoyed that Candle Cove episode. I look forward to Season 2!

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I’m on Pay As You Go, so I’m not a dickhead! Ha!

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Those are the ones who signed the “Whovian” contract. I escaped that fate by scribbling my name on the “Doctor Who is pretty good” bill.

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I thought the flicking off fit with how the characters are realising that their lives aren’t very realistic. Not an original idea, granted, but done better than when that other sitcom did it recently(ish).

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The grandma of mine who hasn’t got dementia has just been diagnosed with cancer of the bone. Thanks for that reminder, Tyler, you BASTARD.

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Mike Tyson taught you grammar? He just beat the shit out of me.

I’ll slow clap myself out.

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There should be an audio podcast promoting this consisting of Gary and someone called Clive calling each other cunts while telling taboo-breaking stories. I have no idea what to call it.

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Pretend I typed that out sarcastically. It makes me look less bad.

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It may have a brilliant plot with an intriguing idea alongside brilliant jokes, but the fact that the episode implies that Rimmer has forgotten that he had more successful brothers undoes more than the episode, and not just the whole show, but the entire fabric of science fiction. I imagine if they’d remastered the series they’d have fixed this problem.

If the universe in the episode has been real and the show went in that direction, I’d imagine that Sebastian would’ve been more a middle man who’s allowed to have the illusion of power. Higher than the gun with the moustache, but with higher ups that could easily change him if he did anything out of the ordinary.

Thinking about it, doesn’t that universe actually exist within the show now, due to the logic set down by Back to Earth?

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I really enjoyed the film, I’m tempted to use the word “immensely” but someone will accuse me of exaggeration. I’m not an exaggerator, it’s one of the many styles I do not have. The most recurring criticism I’ve seen can be summed up as “it’s not like the TV shows, its too much like a film”. I think it was the Financial Times that complained that the plot was very basic and generic, but in my opinion the plot of a movie where the main character is Alan Partridge sort of needs to be. It’s not about what’s going on, it’s about how Alan reacts.

The last bit with Michael was probably my favourite gag, along with Alan and Pat’s reactions. My favourite thing about the film in general, though, is probably Colm Meaney, but I’m a huge fan of his anyway because of the Barrytown trilogy films.

And DS9, probably.

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