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  • in reply to: Spot the dwarf guest star in Deep fake from south park #262924
    Lily
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    I don’t know who I was meant to spot, but man those deep fakes are unsettling and convincing.

    in reply to: people who “react” to RD on Youtube #262150
    Lily
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    Jodie Whitaker still got voted the 2nd best Doctor anyway

    Who the fuck voted that?

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257942
    Lily
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    Fuck everything about this.

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257779
    Lily
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    Last year suffered from no real arc or strong villain for the finale, but it feels like it’s the opposite now. There’s so many mysteries and surprise twists dangling around that there’s no way they’re going to get dealt with in a satisfactory way next week.

    I was so hyped after the Ruth episode, but now I’m distinctly ‘meh’ about whatever turns up. Hoping it’ll be great but not holding my breath.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257322
    Lily
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    The lighthouse is just up the road from Cardiff and the owner is a Who fan. I saw it on an old episode of Hotel Inspector a few weeks ago.

    He’s got his own tardis on the roof and a life sized dalek in the front hall. Having this filmed there must have been ultimate heaven for him.

    http://www.westusklighthouse.co.uk/gallery.html

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257293
    Lily
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    SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    *ahem* long time since I’ve done that, but fuck me was that unexpected and the other thing is so cool and I’ve not been so genuinely excited for the show in a long time. I would say can’t wait for next week but this looks like it’ll take the rest of the series to sort out.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #257158
    Lily
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    I didn’t even post last week I was annoyed with how crap it was.

    This week, I guess it’s perfectly serviceable Who. It did feel a little wikipedia’ish at points when they’re gushing about Tesla. Would have been nice if they’d showed us him being an amazing inventor instead of just telling us.

    I didn’t hate it, so that’s a step up from last week.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #256922
    Lily
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    I really enjoyed that.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #256910
    Lily
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    Nice, another Doctor/Dwarf link, as I’m pretty sure that was Paranoia with the beard?

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #256902
    Lily
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    I tend to give Doctor Who more leeway as they’re trying to be all things to all people. It has to be sci-fi, but not to a point it confuses people, it has to be light but not a comedy, has to be enjoyable for children but not a kids show, has to tackle topical subject but not lecture, and generally be something that is for whole family enjoyment. With that in mind, I can live with a few rear view mirrors reflecting death rays. Sure, you wouldn’t get that in Star Trek, but Who isn’t trying to be that.

    I agree that there are some episodes that have been outstanding, with perfect writing and everything, but I don’t expect that every week. All I ask is an hour/45 mins of enjoyable entertainment. Series 11 fell short on that too often, with plots that didn’t make sense, over explanation and just shitty scripts.

    I don’t expect every episode to be a masterpiece so as far as I’m concerned, an hour of enjoyable telly is meeting expectations.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 12 #256881
    Lily
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    Yeah I enjoyed that. The killer self-driving car has been done before I’m sure, but otherwise it was all good stuff.

    I always try to stay strictly spoiler free to the point I don’t watch trailers or ‘next time’ clips, so was somewhat annoyed at my local radio station talking about it this morning before I’d had a chance to watch on catch-up. With Stephen Fry, Lenny Henry and the Master in one sentence it still did surprise me in the end which was a nice twist.

    Looking forward to next week.

    in reply to: Better Than Life re-release? #256880
    Lily
    Participant

    >I believe it was Lily on the Discord

    Nothing to do with me gov.

    Lily
    Participant

    It appears surprisingly difficult to actually watch BTE online.

    UK versions of Netflix and Britbox both have series 1 to 8. UKTVplay have series 3 + 10 to 12.

    Only Amazon video has the full range of series 1 to 12, including BTE as “Season 9” – none of which are actually included in prime video.

    Do Americans have other options?

    Lily
    Participant

    So how does one watch HBO shows in the UK anyway?

    in reply to: Red Dwarf is now on BritBox in the US #255943
    Lily
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    What an odd choice, to put all the xmas specials as separate entries. If you’re binging a show you have to stop at the appropriate time, search for the special to watch it, then continue with the rest of the series.

    It feels like the people creating britbox have never actually used a streaming service.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf is now on BritBox in the US #255747
    Lily
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    • Yes, Minister series 1 – 3 *(No Christmas Special)
    • Yes, Prime Minister series 1 – 2

    The lack of Christmas special is pretty fundamental in bridging the two shows. It seems so bizarre to cull the specials.

    in reply to: Red Dwarf Book Club #254878
    Lily
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    I’d be up for this. I’ve never read the books so it gives me a good reason to do so.

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #254784
    Lily
    Participant

    Or … and I realise this may be a stretch … it could be a reference to the film The Cincinnati Kid with Steve McQueen about a poker player.

    But yeah, the farting during rimming thing is far more likely.

    in reply to: Almost XIII news #253918
    Lily
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    It must get frustrating for the guys to be constantly asked about Dwarf when they’re busy trying to pimp out whatever it is they’re currently working on.

    in reply to: Unanswered Questions #253085
    Lily
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    The whole ‘can’t move out the frame’ thing is ignored almost as soon as it’s raised. Even the pub they go to, they walk around in when the original is a close up on the band.

    As for the ashtrays, CDs were only just becoming a new thing. Rob & Doug are old, they were remembering these

    in reply to: Unanswered Questions #253080
    Lily
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    But Rimmer walks around inside Lister’s mansion. The whole building is in the frame so it must allow for depth.

    On a separate note, after just re-watching that scene with Ruby Wax, I’ve literally only just got the joke about ‘never short of an ashtray in his house’. Singles were on cassettes in my day, I’d forgotten about vinyl.

    in reply to: The Timelords / The KLF – Doctorin' the Tardis #252485
    Lily
    Participant

    Well they are justified, and they’re ancient.

    in reply to: The Timelords / The KLF – Doctorin' the Tardis #252483
    Lily
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    I didn’t realise this was a legit song. I thought it was something kids had made up to the tune of rock and roll.

    in reply to: I'VE JUST CACKED ME PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 #252356
    Lily
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    “Where are we?”
    “Dunno … stone” thump thump

    THEY WERE GONNA SORT THA’ OUT IN THE DUB

    in reply to: The Classic Doctor Who Thread (1963 to 1989/1996) #252064
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ve still not got around to watching the old Who, but I’ve always presumed there’d be a light sprinkling of racism and sexism in line with the times it was produced. Nothing wrong with that, as that’s just how things were then.

    Even though I’ve not seen them, I still felt that the First Doctor in Twice was deliberately made to be even worse than he probably was, just so they could say “oh look how awful things were and we’re so inclusive now!”

    in reply to: 02:12 of Paranoia #245827
    Lily
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    It appears that 5 years ago he put out a flurry of videos on youtube and never bothered again since.

    in reply to: Archiving DVDs #245023
    Lily
    Participant

    Despite the ominous undertones of Darrell’s “while you can”, that is actually why I’m looking at doing this now. I’ve been buying the DVDs of Doctor Who and have most of Drs.1 & 2 now. Just these alone are taking two shelves and I’m thinking I’m really not invested enough to keep these long term. With the blu-rays slowly coming out, the market for the dvds is going to tank. These are already 2nd or even 3rd hand, so I’ll only be breaking even if I’m lucky.

    Just been having a look at Plex and I’m not sure my TV is smart enough. I guess I could get a chromecast? I’ve already got an amazon stick thing plugged in it.

    in reply to: Star Trek Crap #244816
    Lily
    Participant

    Oi! This is the Star Trek crap thread. Take this off to a Classic Who crap thread!

    In fact I’ll probably start one myself in a few days if no-one else does. Think I’ve just about got all the DVDs to start watching through Doctors 1 and 2.

    in reply to: Star Trek Crap #244707
    Lily
    Participant

    I wouldn’t discount the Dad appeal. Mine hated Doctor Who, but would be a lot more tolerant if it was a Leela episode.

    in reply to: Reddit's favourite episode of each series #244405
    Lily
    Participant

    I don’t really get the Samsara hate. I’ve always rather liked that one. I loved the way that the two timelines were woven together to show us what happened rather than Kryten coming out with a ‘best guess’ (even though he does at the end, but at least the whole premise isn’t just dumped in one best guess). The bit with Cat and Lister in the dark went on too long, but that didn’t make the entire episode awful as far as I’m concerned.

    in reply to: Reddit's favourite episode of each series #244370
    Lily
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    Graph version of the IMDB ratings for people that like visual data https://www.ratingraph.com/serie/red_dwarf-10962/

    It’s interesting to me who actually bothers rating shows on IMDB. It’s certainly never occurred to me to do so, so I’d presume the people have to be a step higher in general fandom than just a casual watcher. It’s also a hard way to rate, as you’re comparing to the rest of all TV, not just within the show itself. When ranking in things like the pearl poll it’s easy to shove BTE and Krytie TV at the bottom and work it out from there, but with ratings, even the worst of RD is better than other shows, so most of them get a 7/8/9 with little nuance between them.

    in reply to: G&T Discord #244297
    Lily
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    I know Discord is where all the cool kids hang out these days, but it really is just a re-wrapped version of IRC. It’s great for general chitter chatter, but sucks balls if you’re trying to scroll back and see what people are talking about while you’ve been offline. It’s also really hard to chime in on conversations that have already ‘passed’.

    The best bit of G&T is the people here and the amount of interesting, well thought out posts (ignoring the idea for an episode thread). I think a lot of that would be lost in Discord.

    I’d be another vote for having an improved forum engine where you can do radical things like edit your post, or search. But considering the guys are busy having lives and all that I’m not going to hold my breath.

    Sure if someone set one up I’d go with Discord, but I’d be thinking of the forum.

    in reply to: Sandwiches #243901
    Lily
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    >I had a sugar sandwich once just out of curiosity because I heard that’s something people (used to?) East when they’re on very little money.

    I grew up on banana and sugar sandwiches. They were a treat for Sunday night tea. The soft banana and crunch of the sugar was a great mix!

    in reply to: Quarantine #243835
    Lily
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    “Did you know” John Cleese forgot the name of his enchanter character in Holy Grail and just made up Tim on the spot and everyone went with it!

    “Did you know” the extras in the biggus dickus scene were told they’d get fired on the spot if they laughed, but Michael Palin was so funny they couldn’t help themselves!

    Urgh … why are people so willing to believe this type of stuff rather than appreciate talented comedy writers?

    in reply to: Quarantine #243771
    Lily
    Participant

    See I’m not convinced that Quarantine really does have plot holes. Of course there’s lots of silly stuff, but the internal logic all stands up. There’s nothing that happens that breaks you out of the immersion and makes you think “wait, no, that doesn’t make sense” (which is what bothered me the most about the last Dr.Who season).

    in reply to: Quarantine #243764
    Lily
    Participant

    I always figured the holovirus was a computer virus. Rimmer puts them in quarantine because he’s already infected and starting madness. The virus allows him to channel his own power supply as lightning and hex vision.

    Could Rimmer have turned Holly off to stop her getting involved?

    As for him touching stuff, I think Rob and Doug gave up on the rules of holograms almost as soon as they made them. It goes from “Holly can only sustain one hologram” to Me2 in the space of 6 episodes.

    in reply to: Reddit's favourite episode of each series #243756
    Lily
    Participant

    I only came to Red Dwarf when VIII was first broadcast and was already an adult, so don’t have any nostalgia for the older stuff. My list is different to the standard, but I’m just one weirdo rather than a representation. https://pastebin.com/vs9AnBBU

    in reply to: Sandwiches #243486
    Lily
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    >Series VII has the only food worth eating. Lobster (thermidor?), waffles, cheesy fried eggs, cottage cheese, tinned peaches, various curry dishes, afternoon tea, roast chicken.

    Is there any ketchup?

    in reply to: Who is Duane Dibbley? #243394
    Lily
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    I’ve never assumed there to be a connection between any of them, other than the brothers. In my mind it was set up like Seb says, random people put together to make a team.

    Considering you’re dropping out of society to live in a fantasy for years at a time, it makes far more sense for each group to be random strangers. If you have three friends you’re not doing so badly in life that this kind of escapism would be desirable.

    in reply to: How do you solve a problem like Meltdown? #243099
    Lily
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    Oh and I was going to also say -where- is Wax World? It must be pretty close to Earth surely? If they’ve been alone there for millions of years, they must be of pretty much the same time as Lister? Had humans gone beyond the solar system at that point?

    in reply to: How do you solve a problem like Meltdown? #243098
    Lily
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    I think the problem is that it’s not even convincing as fields somewhere in England. The buildings in the background and the fence line they walk along really make it feel like the bit of scrubland at the back of the studio car park. It’s the lack of any type of effort that devalues it.

    The outside stuff in Better Than Life is pretty ropey as well. You don’t see Rhyll beach and think of paradise, but with the doorway and car ‘appearing’ it’s enough to be able to just about hold on to enough suspension of belief to make it work.

    in reply to: How do you solve a problem like Meltdown? #243036
    Lily
    Participant

    I love the Winnie scene too, I was just trying to think of reasons why people in general might not like it.

    > but Holoship is an even more extreme case than Meltdown of an episode being confusingly unpopular once and gradually working its way up the ranks

    I could see that people’s opinions on Holoship would change over time. The young teenagers that rated it in the 90s were less likely to understand or empathise with Rimmers motivations as well as the 30somethings that are rating it now.

    in reply to: How do you solve a problem like Meltdown? #243010
    Lily
    Participant

    Dodgy ‘dinosaurs’.
    Outside stuff looks like the back of the studios.
    Whinny the Poo scene has the air of “we don’t have the budget to film this”.
    Some of the guests give a weak performance.
    Some of the guests are too over the top.

    All that being said, I’ve always quite liked it.

    in reply to: Star Trek Crap #242963
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ve not watched Discovery or any of the new films, as there seems to have been a huge tonal shift in recent years. Old Trek was primarily about the drama, the stories being told. Any action sequences were there to move the story along. New Trek feels like it’s flipped that around. The focus is on the action and the story is just there to get you from one action set piece to the next.

    I’d be happy to be corrected on that, but it’s certainly the impression I’ve got from the bits and pieces of the new stuff that I’ve seen.

    in reply to: How many times have you watched the episodes? #242815
    Lily
    Participant

    I only got into Dwarf as an adult, shortly before the DVDs started coming out. I’d guess I’ve only watched the original 1-8 a couple of dozen times.

    BTE, maybe twice times and Dave series maybe three times?

    I find it surprising how under-watched BTE seems to be in this thread though. Previously I’d got the impression here that BTE was well regarded and liked, but it can’t be that much if no-one is re-watching it really?

    in reply to: "We Have To Go!" #242812
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ve never really found that scene odd. I think the main problem is that Arlene is meant to be drunk and isn’t really showing it. Rimmer says “I’m the same when I’m tanked up” and I’m quite prepared to believe that.

    As for him being a bit rapey, is that not the charge thrown at him for most of VIII? Given the mix of social awkwardness, sexual frustration and plenty of booze I’ve known too many guys that take polite conversation as “asking for it” and getting too handsy. Fits his profile perfectly really.

    But yeah, she didn’t play it ‘drunk’, so a lot of that just makes her look over confident instead.

    in reply to: Schools Programme ID #242292
    Lily
    Participant

    Would Maggie Philben (sp?) be a possibility? She used to do Tomorrows World, so that sort of show sounds like it would be a fit maybe?

    in reply to: Star Trek Crap #241555
    Lily
    Participant

    >>That kind of “no peril”, “reset button” criticism applies to almost every TV show ever made

    >Seriously though, wait until you hit Voyager!

    Glad it’s not just me then :) I think the problem is that most shows will take their characters right up to the edge of mortal peril, then do something clever or interesting to save them, so that the show can carry on. However Voyager is perfectly content to let them die, then wave a technobabble magic wand and it’s all OK again. It’s significantly less satisfying that way.

    in reply to: Star Trek Crap #241486
    Lily
    Participant

    >Frequent TNG/DS9 writer and Battlestar Galactica creator Ron Moore gave a famously scathing interview about his very brief time working on Voyager before he quit and the fundamental problems he saw with it.

    Interesting read and hits a lot of the niggles I have. The episodes where they have a chance of getting home annoy me, as you already know it’s not going to happen. Even when they first aired you knew it, as that would be game over for the show. It’s just waiting to see how they fuck it up. Endless shuttles, sending off probes all the time and permanent running holodeck doesn’t tell me that they’re stuck in the delta quadrant with limited supplies.

    Also the lack of peril bothers me. You know that the core crew are always safe and there will always be a reset button found by the end of the episode. Actions never have lasting consequences. Like that guy says, it just doesn’t feel ‘real’.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #241485
    Lily
    Participant

    >the show is nearly 5 million down from the opener to episode 9, so what else do you call that other than ”haemorrhaging viewers”?

    Whittaker has a gap of 4.5 million from her opener to the lowest, not 5. Ecclestone had drop of 4 million, Tennant and Smith both lost 3.7 million in their first seasons. Ecclestone lost 2.8 million in the first week, Whittaker lost 1.9 in her first week. The only one that didn’t have a large gap is Capaldi, but far fewer watched his opener in the first place.

    So I’d say that losing millions of viewers is pretty much par for the course in a new Doctor’s season.

    It just bugs me that the media has been ripping on this season since the start, making out that losing viewers in the first week was a sign that a woman doctor and ‘sjw friendly’ companions was a disaster, rather than a totally normal pattern of viewing behaviour. There’s is always a large drop after the first week. They then carried on the story about it being a ‘ratings disaster’ even when it was getting better ratings than it has for a few years now.

    Rather than the hyperbole of a haemorrhage, I would say there has however been a steady decline in viewers. Other seasons have peaks and troughs according to how interesting the next episode looks. Tennant had a big jump in viewers for the first Cybermen story and again for the return of Rose in Donna’s finale. That’s been missing this season, there’s been no ‘wow I need to watch that’ episodes to get people back watching. It also doesn’t help that we’re a whole 3 episodes short of a full season.

    Going back to the NYD episode though, with catchup it might just reach 7 million, which will scrape about where Capaldi got with Xmas specials. So yeah, it is pretty shit and probably an indication of what’s to come. If they don’t change something and start writing actually good and enjoyable Who soon, they’ll be back into the ratings of Capaldi’s last season in no time, which were objectively awful.

    Pretty blobs on a chart – https://i.imgur.com/KAlsHjp.png

    in reply to: Star Trek Crap #241479
    Lily
    Participant

    Kinda inspired by this thread, I’ve been watching Voyager over the Christmas break. I watched the first few seasons when they originally aired but stopped a little while after 7of9 turned up (no idea what season that is).

    I’ve got through the first two seasons now and boy has it been a slog. I didn’t remember the vast majority of the episodes from first time around, although one or two were familiar. Half the time I ended up fiddling on my phone because they were so boring though.

    Season 3 seems to be picking up now so hopefully this will feel less of a grind soon.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #241439
    Lily
    Participant

    I only got round to watching it last night, as I’ve been in no real hurry to catch up. Almost wish I hadn’t bothered as it’s yet another ‘eh’ episode.

    It really felt like the pacing was all over the place, one minute we’re having quiet conversations, cut to action sequence of dalek causing havoc, cut back to a different emotional conversation. It just felt really disjointed and unsure what tone was being set. Then just to mix it up there’s a handful of comedy scenes being thrown in for no good reason. Oh the Doctor is panicking about this alien invasion and is desperately calling for backup? Of course that’s the perfect time to throw in a “aren’t call centres annoying” comedy bit!

    I’ve also got to the point where I stop worrying about all of the plot holes/conveniences now. The archaeologist guy -happens- to be an expert in this 9th century cult that just -happens- to be relevant to the plot, complete with illustrated guide on how to kill a dalek? Fine. Whatever. A dismembered dalek can be buried for over two thousand years, but with a little UV light teleport its bits back together again and live? Fine. Whatever. I’m willing to suspend disbelief, but things still need to have their own internal logic.

    I think another problem is that they try to make things seem grand and epic when they’re not. Having the Doctor looking at tardis monitors, running around shouting “oh no, it’s turning off the wifi, it’s shutting down the power!” is meant to sound epic, but all we’re seeing is her looking at monitors. It doesn’t -feel- threatening. Go back to season 1 and watch Eccleston stare in horror at one tin can trundling through a single building and you really -feel- the threat of a Dalek.

    As for the end, I couldn’t really care less about the Dad. We’re told all season he’s a bit of a loser and doesn’t even really say sorry to Ryan during their heart to heart. The only reason I didn’t want him to die was because that would give too much importance to a nothing character.

    If I could re-write the last few episodes, I would hold off on the Graham/Ryan moments and leave them for this one. Dalek jumps onto Graham, Graham is willing to sacrifice himself for the others, “I’ve had a good life” and all that, Ryan says “I love you Grandad”, Graham lives, everyone happy and sentimental. Job done.

    As for the ratings, yeah as a single number 5.15 million is low even for a normal episode, let alone a ‘special’, but everything on New Years Day was low. It was still the 4th highest show that day with the top only 0.5m more. It’s not really a case of the show “haemorrhaging viewers” but just that not many people watch TV on NYD. But let’s not let facts spoil a nice narrative eh?

    Lily
    Participant

    My ex was into sci-fi anyway, so when he saw I had all the DVDs was down to watch through them. The response was pretty lukewarm though, although he enjoyed them there’s been no desire to re-watch at all. He did watch series X but didn’t like it much and refuses to watch XI and XII.

    Just asked what his favourite series was and he’s replied “the prison one”. Huh. Apparently it’s because it has more of the bunk room scenes, which he felt was the best bit about the earlier series.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239826
    Lily
    Participant

    I can’t help feeling a little underwhelmed. It felt like there were ideas that were big and impressive, but were treated with so little care they just rushed past. Big battles, hundreds of crashed ships, whole planets in a bit of perspex, people that live thousands of years, chambers full of stasis people, ‘the planet’ wiping memories. So many things that were thrown in, maybe to try to make it seem epic, but just ended up feeling a mess.

    Also, since I don’t see trailers or any promotional material if I can, I was totally expecting Graham to be killed off today. Especially since he had his deathwish grudge match. So in all honesty I feel a little cheated that he just shot Tim in the foot and was fine and dandy. Not even the Ux died. Doesn’t feel like a finale unless -someone- dies.

    I guess to give some credit, it wasn’t a BAD episode. Just, could do better. Which is a shame.

    in reply to: 💩 Did anyone like Farscape? 🚽 #239717
    Lily
    Participant

    How many seasons were there in total?

    Lily
    Participant

    Call me paranoid, but I prefer to have a solid grip on my luggage.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239580
    Lily
    Participant

    Pretty blobs on lines, for those that are interested in seeing viewing figures in context.

    View post on imgur.com

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239561
    Lily
    Participant

    Ryan has called him grandad now. We just need the fist bump next week and we’re done with Ryan.

    Unfortunately I suspect we’re more likely to lose Walsh at the end of the season, as he seems far more likely to be a ‘one season and done’ kinda companion. If Chibnall and Whittaker do leave then we’ll get her and the remaining 2 companions in next year’s half arsed season and then starting all from scratch again.

    in reply to: Classic Doctor Who seasons on Blu-Ray #239480
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ve just started buying the Who dvds, so the inability to get the season 12 blu-rays is really annoying. It seems such a bizarre business choice to only do one print run and say ‘no more’ on something that’s got long term appeal. People want to buy it regardless of its “limited edition package”. I just want a nice blu-ray boxset. I want to give the BBC money and they won’t let me!

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239402
    Lily
    Participant

    Well that was a bit bloody brilliant. Even the frog.

    OK so the Doctor pulled the explanation for what’s going on out of her arse a bit, but in all honesty that’s almost a feature of Who anyway. I can totally live with that.

    Everything else was just great! We’ll have more of that thank you very much.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239344
    Lily
    Participant

    The 5 year plan only included 3 series anyway, with 18 month gaps. But because this series has done so well on Sunday nights, the BBC now want a series every year. But Chibnall doesn’t want to do that much, so is going to half-arse one for them next year then fuck off, with Whittaker going with him.

    Allegedly.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239332
    Lily
    Participant

    Well yes, I did mean other than Chibnall. If everyone else is new though, that might help explain that feeling of “almost, but not quite” that I’m getting on every episode. Would certainly be a reason why so often the alien of the weekend feels a little crowbarred into a story that didn’t need one had it not been Doctor Who.

    What determines a show as a success though; the quantity of the general public watching it, or the opinions of the fans?

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239312
    Lily
    Participant

    Just got around to watching this week. Good period stuff, interesting mystery, interesting witch finding stuff, whole team feeling useful, it was on the whole a really good episode. Loved Alan Cumming hamming it up as King James.

    Until the shouty alien turned up. Then it all got rather silly. I’m not a fan of the whole shouting to make things scary. I’d rather be scared by actions, not volume of voice.

    Out of interest, are the writers this year all new to Who?

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239175
    Lily
    Participant

    Not a fan of that one personally. From the start the over excited reaction of when the Kerblam bot turned up was uncomfortable to me. There’s sometimes the feeling that this Doctor is a 12 year old who’s had too much sugar.

    The whole ‘automated company has put all the people out of work’ thing was a pretty low hanging fruit swipe at Amazon complete with objectionable manager. You knew Dan was dead as soon as he got soppy about his little girl (love Lee Mack though), you knew Kira was dead as soon as the Doctor started to protect her.

    Ryan’s dyspraxia bit felt totally shoe-horned in. It was like they recognised that the iminent action sequence was a dumb idea that shouldn’t be possible, so they put a disclaimer beforehand of ‘I have this condition, but I’m going to do this anyway’, like that makes it any better.

    Did anyone else have trouble telling the types of robot apart? It didn’t really occur to me that there were two types, as they all looked the same to me. I will admit I loved the design though, creepy right from the start.

    As much as I loved the twist, it almost feels like it raised more questions than it answered. How was the ‘evil’ manager keep track of disappearances when the HR lady kept saying it’d be impossible to know? Why did Charlie try to kill off Yaz the moment she got there (presuming it was him giving people 999 orders to get picked off by his bots). Finally, since the system could control what the good bots said and did, why didn’t it just -tell- the Doctor what was going on?

    I really wanted to like this one, but it just irritated and annoyed me all the way through.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #239053
    Lily
    Participant

    >Where is it said he intended to bow out with The Doctor Falls?

    Here – http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/news/a834617/doctor-who-christmas-special-almost-scrapped/

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238971
    Lily
    Participant

    >I’ll never get used to them ending with different music that plays over the credits, I don’t like that.
    Ditto. Hate that.

    Oh, just catching up on reddit they point out it’s the normal theme slowed down indian style.
    Still hate it.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238968
    Lily
    Participant

    I enjoyed the episode in general but the alien twist felt rather unsatisfactory. Once you’ve found out they’re just hanging out for dead people it makes their former actions more questionable like why all the mental attacks on the Doctor when they first get there?

    >And Tosin Cole still can’t act.
    While I agree, I’d also argue that he’s making the best of the lines he gets. Sometimes it’s a case of *screen turns on* “Hey look, the screen’s turned on”. It doesn’t help that everything seems to be delivered in a monotone.

    >I’ll never get used to them ending with different music that plays over the credits, I don’t like that.
    Ditto. Hate that.

    What I found a little odd was the lack of accents. The Nan had a very mild accent in Sheffield, which was less than I’d expect really. It was the stuff in the Punjab that really seemed odd though. You get a little line about their punjabi not being bad for foreigners, but then all of the locals have a faint northern accent. It’s not like I’m saying we need Apu but it just felt a little off.

    Also why are they all “oooh what killed the holy man?” – doesn’t the sonic read a bullet wound?

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238815
    Lily
    Participant

    Oh, poor graphing skills with no labels. It’s viewers in Millions up the side and episode number along the bottom.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238814
    Lily
    Participant

    > I don’t really want to be one of those people who talks about hearsay regarding viewership, I find that a bit daft sometimes

    I’m daft, I’m a data nerd. I was actually having an argument with a friend this morning about this. He’s one of these “never watched after Tennant” types, who was adamant that viewing figures have been going down ever since and no-one liked or watched Smith. So I put this together to hit him with some data.

    View post on imgur.com

    Last week’s final figures haven’t been confirmed yet and obviously her average will go down over the next few weeks. The grouping isn’t entirely accurate as Ecclestone never had an Xmas episode, but it’s close enough to give an idea. I also split out the season that was half Amy, half Clara as there was a clear dip in interest with Clara around. There’s also an extra Xmas episode that I ignored, as it wasn’t attached to a season and xmas is always an outlier anyway.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238789
    Lily
    Participant

    >The internet in general seems to think it was pish

    Oh wow yeah, they really hated it didn’t they? I mean sure, it’s no Blink, but I didn’t think it was that bad? It had a few issues but nothing that killed the show dead in the water.

    People are moaning that it was boring and confusing, but I found it neither. Just a entertaining little base-under-siege middle of the season episode. Almost feels like I didn’t watch the same show as everyone else (apart from Ben).

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238783
    Lily
    Participant

    Yes I really enjoyed that one. Tension, danger, running around, people dying, Doctor desperately trying to take charge and think of how to save them, all good Who stuff. I could have done without the dead mother chat which rather killed the pace for a little while, but other than that it was a good little episode.

    Shame we’ve had to wait 5 weeks for one though.

    in reply to: Favourite model or CG shot in all the Red Dwarf series? #238767
    Lily
    Participant

    >I’m also reminded of how inappropriate I find the laughter after Red Dwarf blows up in Demons & Angels. I mean I guess there is a joke there and maybe it was funnier in the studio.

    “the chances of it actually blowing are about one in *kaboom* … one” is one of my most favourite lines in all of Dwarf. I even do that slightly weird thing where you mouth along silently with the line, in gleeful anticipation of what’s about to come. (Is that something other people do with favourite lines? I really hope so.)

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238735
    Lily
    Participant

    >Hartnell’s ring was discarded by Troughton at the start of his first episode. It’s a back-reference to this, given the context of the episode.

    Thank you!

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238725
    Lily
    Participant

    It’s still on iplayer (in fact all nuwho is now).

    I re-watched the regeneration earlier, the Tardis turns on its side and literally shakes her out. That’s why I thought there would be more issue made about the ring and getting back in. But apparently not.

    in reply to: Americans watch Red Dwarf for the first time and it's… #238723
    Lily
    Participant

    Actually fuck these guys, I want to take my view count back from them.

    Clicked on the Yes Minster one, and they literally watch a 3 minute clip then spend 5 minutes saying how they don’t understand who anyone was or the context of the 30+ year old political landscape being made joked about.

    At the end they ‘defend’ not watching a whole show as they say it’d be taken down for copyright. “we’re just making react videos here”. So basically they’ve no interest in the show, or really reacting to it much they’re just putting up clickbait videos because they know that suckers will watch any video with the title of a well loved british comedy show in it

    … like us lot.

    in reply to: Americans watch Red Dwarf for the first time and it's… #238711
    Lily
    Participant

    I think a lot of the episodes from 4/5/6 would be good. Preferably ones without any alternate realities or duplicate characters.

    A bunch of them say to start at The End, but if it’s only going to be a one off, it’s not really representative. Likewise with Back to Reality and Gunmen, although great episodes they spend so long in another reality it’s too confusing for a one off.

    Something set mostly on the ship or a shape station, with minimal guest stars would be the better choice. DNA, Justice, White Hole, Inquisitor, Quarantine, Psirens, Legion etc.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238700
    Lily
    Participant

    >do you think they’ll ever explain how the Doctor fell to earth safely at the start of this series

    “Still in regeneration”

    I’m more confused about the whole ring falling off and Tardis throwing her out thing. I presumed the ring was required to operate the Tardis or something like that, but new Tardis apparently don’t care. There was such focus on the ring it’s got to mean something?

    in reply to: Americans watch Red Dwarf for the first time and it's… #238697
    Lily
    Participant

    Ok yeah, that’s a really odd one to watch with no knowledge. I like the episode itself, but there’s no surprise that the woman sat there looking utterly confused.

    At least in the comments they recognise it was a bad one to start with and are asking for recommendations.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238683
    Lily
    Participant

    Going back to series 11, I’m loving Bradley Walsh. The scenes with him talking to Grace in their house were just heartbreaking.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238642
    Lily
    Participant

    >Well, Helen A in The Happiness Patrol basically was Margaret Thatcher, and that was put out in November 1988.

    I’ll admit I’ve not seen that one, but from a quick google that it’s basically supporting my point. It may not have been terribly subtle, but it’s still only a caricature with plausible deniability. It’s not like she’s shutting down the mines and stopping free milk for children, or Ace right out saying “oh that Thatcher is a cunt”. (On a side note, wtf is up with the giant Berty Bassett?)

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238630
    Lily
    Participant

    OK so I should have specified current politicians. Historical figures are another thing.

    I guess I just don’t current affairs in my sci-fi. Can you imagine Tom Baker’s doctor making snarky comments about Harold Wilson? I’m not a fan of having pop music in episodes either.

    Maybe I’m just a grumpy old woman, but maybe if the shows were better written it wouldn’t be so egregious. Sci-fi has always made social and political commentary, but Who is doing it with the subtlety of a brick through the window.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238585
    Lily
    Participant

    Well that was a bit underwhelming. I really really don’t like spiders in movies (the Lost in Space metal spiders gave me actual nightmares for weeks) so I had to gear myself up for this episode. I figured Sunday tea-time shouldn’t be too scary though. Unfortunately I’m almost disappointed how un-scary they actually were.

    Like Dave said, the Trump stuff was a bit unexpected as well. It was bad enough having a rich American hotel mogul running for president but I was really surprised when they literally name-checked him. Is this the first time Who has mentioned a real life politician? I mean, we’ve had two story lines involving prime-ministers without mentioning real politicians, why bring Trump into it?

    As for the spiders, I’m really confused by the Doctors new pro-life policy. Sure, when you have a sentient lifeform that can be communicated with, having a little chat persuading them to bugger off is a nice idea. But these are literal man-eating monsters, I’m sure a previous doctor would have just torched the place and be done with it. The gun thing makes no sense either. Oh yes, let’s leave these spiders in a small room where they’ll starve and cannibalise each other before a slow and painful death. Likewise lets watch this giant spider slowly suffocate to death instead of putting it out of its misery. Oh and we’ll have a nice cosy chat afterwards and clear off, leaving all the other giant spiders roaming round the city, no probs bruv.

    Lily
    Participant

    My main computer is a laptop, but I took the plunge and spent £900 on an MSI. It’s 3 years old now, but is still bloody brilliant and can run all the latest games at ‘high’ settings.

    Budget laptops are awful things, they give the impression of being flexible when half the time they can barely summon the power to run a browser with more than 3 tabs.

    Lily
    Participant

    Not everyone has the good eyesight and fine motor control to use a phone. Tablets are really popular in the older generation as you get all the cool stuff of a phone, but at a size that’s more useable for them. They can still sit on the sofa and shitpost on Facebook while watching corrie on the telly. While possible with a laptop, a tablet is still easier to hold while sitting.

    Lily
    Participant

    >Harry Potter-The Next Generation

    I’m going to be one of those awful Potter people. It’s more The Previous Generations, as the latest films are set in the late 20’s.

    Remember all the kids that grew up with Harry Potter are now mid-20s with disposable income. They’re going to be milking this cash-cow for a while yet.

    in reply to: Where Can I Find PE Bottles #238450
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ve already got a pet cat, do I really need a pet bottle too?

    in reply to: on today's episode of "What The Fuck", Thanks For The Memory #238404
    Lily
    Participant

    >Me²

    Oh. Yeah. So much for my ‘one light bee’ theory.

    Damn this show and its bloody inconsistencies. “Can only support one hologram” my arse.

    in reply to: on today's episode of "What The Fuck", Thanks For The Memory #238302
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ve always presumed there’s only one light bee.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238295
    Lily
    Participant

    >I’d read that Chibnall wanted to be more educational

    Whelp, guess that was the educational history episode of the series then.

    But well done on Ryan getting rid of the bad guy, we’re NEVER going to be seeing him again -_-

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #238145
    Lily
    Participant

    I rather liked it. It seems appropriate that the crew are more subdued when they’re in culture shock from being in space and crash landing on an alien planet. It’s going to be difficult to have all of them playing a significant part in every episode, so while it was Ryan and Graham this week, I’d hope to have more focus on Yaz next week. It makes sense you can’t do character development on all of them when you’re still building the Doctors new character too.

    As for the patronising side, I felt it more for the character than personally. In both the getting the boat to go and climbing the ladder, the character development was already there and was just spoilt by the Doctor coming along and giving him a pat on the head for being a good boy. The pep talk to get up the ladder felt very ’11’, but really we’re getting a bit beaten over the head with the dyspraxia bit. Just a shot of him psyching up before climbing would have made the point.

    The talking mindreading rags seemed very … odd. Leaving aside the question of how rags can talk, if they can see all the way into a time lords subconscious (memory/whatever), wouldn’t the plan of what they were about to do be in big flashing letters? Eh, nitpicky. That whole scene felt very Harry Potter’esque for some reason I can’t pin down.

    I’m happy enough to look forward to next week now.

    in reply to: Series III Certification #238006
    Lily
    Participant

    >Does mouse shit roll? I’ve never checked.

    It looks like small brown grains of rice, sooooo no, not really.

    Kinda kills the line though.

    in reply to: Series III Certification #237992
    Lily
    Participant

    >Yeah, I hurriedly had to skip that bit when I watched Ghostbusters for the first time with the kids recently!

    My parents home edited Ghostbusters before letting me watch it (pausing the recording off TV when it got too scary). The only bit that they cut out was the librarian ghost at the start, as she was too frightening. I remember that in particular as she scared the CRAP out of me first time I watched an unedited version. I’m pretty sure they left the blowjob thing in, as to a kid it’s pretty meaningless ghosty lady floating around.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #237950
    Lily
    Participant

    So I can mention the fact that the advance publicity focusing on the three companions made it pretty clear that one of the four wasn’t going to survive past this episode! It was nicely handled, though – Walsh did well during the funeral scene.

    I avoid all trailers and publicity, so this was a surprise to me. Unfortunately I found her the most likeable one of the bunch so was pretty pissed off that she got killed off for no particular reason.

    I think one of the things that threw it most for me was that the sense of time and locations didn’t seem to flow right. I’ve a whole list of ‘that should have taken longer’ and ‘how did they get there so fast?’. Yeah it’s picky but it’s hard to get into a story when your mind is going ‘hang on, that doesn’t feel right’ all the time. How did the guy who lost his sister know the pod was there? Why are the construction workers on site at what must be middle of the night? She’s already killed him, why send him home and get annoyed at the lad for kicking him off when he’s already teleporting anyway?

    So many niggles that just shouldn’t be there.

    As for Whittaker? Ehhhhh, pretty hard to judge when it’s all regeneration madness. We’ll see after the next few episodes.

    Fucking hate the culottes.

    in reply to: Doctor Who – Series 11 #237938
    Lily
    Participant

    I’ll be honest and say that I’m not a fan of the sex change, but I’m watching at least the first few episodes to see how it pans out. It was good that they didn’t dwell on it at any point, just a quick ‘oh I’m a woman now, OK’ and moving on.

    The story itself was alright but I feel like I’m left with a feeling of a lot of things not really making much sense.

    How spoiler’y can we be in discussion? I presume because it’s aired it’s not an issue?

    in reply to: Series III Certification #237835
    Lily
    Participant

    I hadn’t noticed before that XI got a 15, while X and XII were still 12.

    Bloody Samsara and its “infrequent strong sex references”.
    https://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/red-dwarf-xi-video-4

    in reply to: Favourite Bunkroom? #237797
    Lily
    Participant

    Got to be the officers quarters for me.

    I notice on these twitter polls it’s always overwhelming in favour of the first two series. Seems odd to me that people who are bothered enough about dwarf to follow their twitter and vote on things but are firmly nostalgic for only series 1+2.

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #237796
    Lily
    Participant

    I always thought it was a play on the thing where people say that actors look shorter in real life than they do on tv/film.

    in reply to: Jokes you don't/didn't get #237749
    Lily
    Participant

    >aren’t good lovers stereotypically slow and measured?

    That’s all good and well, but sometimes you just want a good Black&Decker’ing.

    in reply to: What's the most you've laughed at Red Dwarf? #237652
    Lily
    Participant

    Fawlty Towers is on UK Netflix. I went through them in order, but got to The Germans (last of the first series) and gave up on that halfway through. Hadn’t really enjoyed them up to that point and had enough by then. Not watched the second series at all.

    in reply to: BBC Two – new idents #237621
    Lily
    Participant

    Apologies for lowering the tone, but Channel 4 has also done a rebrand. Including this rather lovely, Dwarf-esque space station, which I’m 76% sure is a nicely put together miniature shot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djbTRK4UQoY

    Ooooh, that is nice.

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