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I’m most pleased with myself, way more than the occasion warrants, over the fact I guessed the ‘Robot’ clip exactly right.

Kudos to the creator for using at least a few Dave-era clips!

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Not sure when this re-evaluation occurred,

Maybe when they noticed the world and his wife slating the ever-loving fuck out of the project at any given opportunity…

Weird City / Tales from Weird City…Thursday Man (Walter Matthau dystopia sitcom vehicle) and Big Crunch (“a science fiction magazine show, which would cover everything, from SF and fantasy to graphic novels and nostalgia”)

It’s worth asking Doug about at least some (if not all…) of these, at any future Q&A.

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When you draw an alien but then remember that Red Dwarf doesn’t have aliens, you put it in a suit and say it’s a simulant. Smooth.

Well, if it ain’t broke…

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Anyone else wish they had made more of a thing of ‘head’ Baltar?

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The idea of a huge hunk of rock, from a moon or otherwise, smashing into the belly of the Dwarf (rather than deliberately pulled into a bay) was kind of re-introduced with the new, bastardised version of the re-mastered model, as you can sort of see here…

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It amuses me how people are more bothered about Rimmer being in the green uniform (reason for that being, ‘The Inquisitor’ was supposed to be the first episode of series 5, and the idea was the green uniform denoted ‘normality’) than the dodginess of the opening crew scene; with Lister needlessly blathering on about the Trojans for way too long. Granted, there is the famous Kryten ‘die in bed, you Trojan pig-dog…’ line in that scene, so…whatever.

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Couple of Red Dwarf connections with Outland, Bill Pearson worked on it, and the spacesuits from series I were from Outland.

Video of Bill talking about it

Heavenly.

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I like to think of the JMC as Dwarf’s own answer to ‘the company’, whether this being Weyland-Yutani from Alien (huge influence), or even the real East India Company of old.

I watched Outland (1981) when Paul Muller recommended it on here, definitely an influence on that background and Jupiter mining generally.

YES. As far as Peter Hyams’ sci-fi films go, Outland always seems to sneak under the radar, with Capricorn One and 2010 (the 2001 follow-up) being much more well-known. The overall look and feel of Outland owes a great deal to Alien, with some Dark Star thrown in for good measure. To say it wasn’t a huge influence on Red Dwarf, for various reasons (Jupiter mining, Io, no aliens, High Noon/Western themes in space, amongst others) would be a huge understatement.

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I always thought of it as JMC owned Red Dwarf and were basically something like BP or Exxon Mobil. But the crew were all Space Corps, who are like the Merchant Navy.

I like to think of the JMC as Dwarf’s own answer to ‘the company’, whether this being Weyland-Yutani from Alien (huge influence), or even the real East India Company of old.

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Lister/Kochanski (or ‘Krave’, if you like)

Kolchister.

Gotta love the castle there, and that crazy water tower jobby.

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They all seem to know of simulants/ eugenics/ genetically engineered stuff when they encounter it, so maybe GELFs and simulants got shot off into Deep Space before Red Dwarf did.

Kryten is the one with the most knowledge on these subjects. It can be assumed the rest of the crew learnt from him. Also, Holly gathered much information while traversing the galaxy, back in the day.

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If they ever bring Kochanski back, I’d hope they just ditch the whole will they/won’t they thing they had going in VII and VIII. Kochanski having such contempt for Lister just made him look a little pathetic as all indications we’d seen up to that point was that it would work out alright for them. It’s one aspect I like about Last Human, that they settled into Lister and Kochanski being in love without any tedious “urgh, what did I ever see in him?” nonsense.

Taking them in that direction, within the realms of episodic sitcom, wouldn’t have been the easiest thing to pull off; not at that time, at least. With specials being the flavour of the moment, a more complex Lister/Kochanski (or ‘Krave’, if you like) would most definitely be possible, probable, inevitable, all of those. This does not necessarily involve making them a couple. However, there’s certain tantalising threads, from Back To Earth, left hanging; and if there’s a top 3 of stories, that people would want to see ‘resolved’, before Dwarf reaches its natural end, Krave certainly makes that list.

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but the timeline’s been confirmed by others, like Kryten’s age given in Krysis.

There are many simple explanations or workarounds could be used. When has a little detail like this ever been any kind of stumbling block in the past?

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A few questions to ponder…

1. Does Kryten, or any other crew member, know more about Kochanski’s current whereabouts than they have ever let on?

2. Are Lister and Kochanski truly the last human beings alive?

3. If both Lister and Kochanski died, or were presumed dead, what would Rimmer, Kryten and the Cat’s purpose be in the universe?

4. What does an Earth, 3 million years later, actually look like?

5. Would the rest of the crew listen if Rimmer really had to pull rank, in a life-or-death situation?

6. If the crew came across technology that enabled them to grow more human beings, yet in a completely unethical way, would Lister be onboard with the idea? Just how far would he be willing to go to have people back?

7. What if aliens DID suddenly turn up (or appear to…) in the Red Dwarf universe? Is that simply a line that should never be crossed, i.e, would it take things too far in the Doctor Who or Star Trek direction?

8. Similar to the Lister question, how far would Rimmer go in order to become ‘real’ again? What if his hologrammatic memories and persona could be placed in a physical body? Not a body that resembled Rimmer himself, obviously, but someone or something else…?

9. What if Holly had ALWAYS been wrong about Red Dwarf being 3 million years into deep space? He says he might have got the calculations wrong, and been out by ‘a couple of million…give or take. It’s hard to be sure about this sort of thing.’ Rimmer – ‘Hard to be sure? You’re supposed to have an IQ of 6,000!’ Holly – ‘You’re supposed to have a pulse, Arnold. It’s like that famous line from Jurassic Park 14, “Life finds a way…of making a complete balls-up of it all.”

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so the idea that men and women have identical interests and aptitudes is untenable.

You are terrible at Tenable.

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Series 2 suggests it’s the mid-late 21st century. A calendar seen in Stasis Leak suggests the setting was 2077, Rimmer calls Captain Hollister ‘Mr Fat Bastard 2044.’

2155 birthdate is from Ouroboros, making The End around 2180. This is based on the novels.
Series 4 has Lister say 23rd century. This was after the novels, but disregards it.

You’re assuming Lister knows in what Century he’s living…

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Do you think there is ever a possibility that Red Dwarf could crossover with Alan Partridge in a future episode? Maybe a special.

This Timewave.

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He’s an admin for a Red Dwarf forum and he’s watching the first two series for the first time?

Tbf, there are probably people who worked on those two series’ who have never seen them…or only saw them in commentary sessions or the like.

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I’m finding this quite enjoyable, right now. :)

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> I haven’t seen the Prestige…

Please do. I’m pretty biased, cause it’s one of my favourite films of all-time, but yeah…asap, if you would.

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I’ve seen various comments from people who know nothing of RD talking about what happens when they eat/shit etc. and it’s so glorious to point them toward ‘Backwards’ in response. :D

Obviously none of this is meant to be an actual reference to Dwarf, but we’ll never know if a young Nolan’s viewing of series 3 has had any influence on proceedings.

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Fascinating! I never knew Henry Normal’s real name…until now! Or that Wacko Jacko got back on the books of GNP in 2017. Interesting indeed….!

None of this is really our business, tbf. There’s nothing wrong in looking at Companies House, but it’s unfair to speculate over what Doug’s resigning might mean. It’s unlikely we’ll hear anything ‘official’ on this for a good while.

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I did have my little boomer fan moment of sheer ecstasy seeing Riker turn up commanding a starship, to be honest — before I realised I hated the bridge design, and something about the way it was shot/visual fidelity made it look like a fan film

Apparently, as some people have pointed out, it was shot on the Discovery bridge (with a few things moved around), while Frakes was directing a season 3 episode, which is why it looks a little odd.

Tbh I think they really blew the finale. The fact it made me not even care about Picard dying, or, indeed, the Harry/Dumbledore-esque scene between him and Data, when both of those moments should have been huge, just goes to show how poorly executed and thought out it all was.

Way too many characters, way too many factions and plotlines. No true bad guy or good guy. You even feel what happened offscreen was 10x more interesting than the action they showed. A 2 hour movie with half the number of players may well have worked a LOT better.

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I like how this is being held up online as being the most horrific thing that could happen to Dwarf…xD It’s really not.

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Definite Dwarfian vibe, whether deliberate or not. Armando has rarely let us down, and IMO this is no exception. Looking forward to seeing things develop…

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‘The thought occurs…’ all of that is awesome.

Also, the whole of the ‘well it probably is deja vu’ scene, from Future Echoes, aka one of the best scenes in all of Dwarf.

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Norman – ‘and then they did a jigsaw’ (Thanks For The Memory)

Chris – ‘It’s you, isn’t it.’ (Timeslides, maybe my favourite line from all of Dwarf)

Craig – ‘It’s not about the Stirmaster anymore Kryten!!!!!’ (Trojan, lmao well perhaps not, but whatever)
– ‘Souper!’

Danny – ‘I’d prefer chicken!’ (Better Than Life)

Robert – ‘I have a medium-sized fire axe buried in my spinal column.’ (The Inquisitor)t

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That ‘in-smeggin…credible’ shot in Timeslides is one of the niftiest things across all of Dwarf. Of course, Craig does an amazing job of selling the effect, and it’s one of those occasions where you’re watching with a big grin on your face cause it’s clever, funny and sci-fi. It’s everything you want to see happen.

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Seeing as Lenny Henry’s in it (and brilliant), it’s worth reminding ourselves of one of the best Doctor Who parodies of all time –

They obviously won’t cast him now, but he WOULD have made a great Doctor.

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It’s a shame Capaldi’s not leading this tbh. Obviously, Hugh is more known to American audiences.

For a moment it looked like there was a huge disaster, leaving minimal crew, but Armando wouldn’t do that….?? You also just know the ‘notes’ from HBO, telling him to tap into ‘The Good Place’-type vibes, constantly kept dropping. Much like everything had to be like ‘The Office’ for a number of years.

Still, Rebecca Front and all that!!

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BURN EVERY EPISODE OF SUPERTED EVER MADE

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Does anyone else think it was a little weird how they made this huge deal of the 7 and Data reveal, keeping the actors away from the panel, initially, and all that, and zero word of Jeri or Brent’s involvement on the show, to then just randomly say ‘oh btw Frakes and Marina are in it too’…?? XD

Why didn’t they keep the other returnees secret??? In all honestly, I’m miffed about them spoiling them. Who, seriously, wasn’t gonna watch the Picard show? They did not need to spoil all this to get people interested! I would have loved Brent’s involvement to have been a huge surprise.

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> but enough time has passed since XII wrapped to effectively give XIII the pitch status of a ‘revival’ rather than a continuation.

Pitch your arse.

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Tbf at one stage they DID think they were very close indeed to having the movie greenlit.

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> For modern Dwarf i think the cat needs to go OOWWW everytime he ends a joke… oh he kinda does that already.

Tbf if he’s not gonna do it at the end of a 30 second advert then what is the point of him, or us, or life?

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That’s crazy about the XII music cues. Never knew that. Does anyone have an explanation for what happened?

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I always though ‘You killed the crew, Kryten!’ should have had an in-episode explanation, for those who didn’t read Infinity Welcomes… cause it seems completely insane, out of nowhere, the idea of Kryten ‘killing’ the Nova 5 crew. (he splashes soapy water onto a console, right? So hardly anything deliberate)

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> No offense against Andrew Ellard but perhaps a better script editor too.

‘No offense but, yeah, offense.’ xD

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The ape from Entangled could be a leftover element from the lost ‘circus’ episode.

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Makes no sense why he’d diss Dwarf.

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I love the way the sets were lit, though the overall brightness needed to be upped just a notch, in post. It probably looked great in the editing suite (and yeah the series’ do look their best when you’re watching them in low light), though maybe they didn’t factor in all viewing scenarios.

Still, it made a nice contrast to the flat lighting of X (which I still love, anyway).

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GO OUTSIDE. Breath in some fucking fresh air. Yes, Twitter stops you from having to think about your own life, but DO think about your life for one fucking second. Stressing about celebrities’ political views is one of the biggest wastes of time known to man. Make yourself bigger and better than all of this shit. You don’t enjoy this. It’s just a safe illusion of ‘enjoyment’ because you only have to move a finger and stare at a screen to access it.

The writer of this thread title, on a Red Dwarf forum, IS a fucking idiot. You don’t do this. Even the impolite don’t do it! (slight reference to my avatar there) You are an impolite, cowardly cunt. When you have created what Howard has created, then maybe you could talk.

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Criminality aside, THE worst thing about the internet is how it allows pub bores to have a voice.

‘But surely everyone’s voice deserves to be heard…’ NOPE. Not out loud, at least, and certainly not on youtube.

These are the people you zone out to/walk away from, otherwise you’re gonna end up telling them to their face what a boring, wasteful cunt they are, and that never ends well. Mind you, you can tell these bores to go fuck themselves as many times as you want, they’ll never stop wasting the life of every single person who comes into contact with them.

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‘What do vegetarian maggots eat?’

Lovely…….xD

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Back when he was still Scouse. :)

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All this confusion about framerates is the reason it’s fucked up so very often on DVD/Blu-ray releases. One of, if not the first BBC Blu-ray releases was of ‘Planet Earth’ and it played back at 24fps, thus resulting in that 4% slowdown.

Budget is a major reason for this happening, as they will often produce one master for all markets. If they REALLY wanted to, they could make it all work. The same goes for 5.1 surround mixes as well, but that’s another story…….

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We can guess Rob and Doug met up to say ‘look what we did thirty years ago’ over a drink, or something? It really would be frickin brilliant if Rob did a new Red Dwarf novel or, indeed, anything connected to Dwarf, in the future.

As for the stage show… it seems like the cast keep angling for it, so I say let it happen. I can imagine it being a new story but with some ‘greatest hits’ elements thrown in.

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The other reason was to push it into the Autumn slot. Though I guess the main reason for splitting series 7 was to stop there being a full series, plus the 50th special, plus a Christmas special, all produced in one year (this is what people presumed when Moffat said something like ‘there’s gonna be more Doctor Who than ever before’).

Though I don’t think they did the show any favours with this decision. It doesn’t help there were some godawful episodes being made during this time (series 7 is generally a mess, with one or two good ones surrounded by shite, and a total nonsensical storyline with Clara, just imo ofc)

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If there was any pitch at all it would likely just have been ‘the four guys, audience, back to the old Dwarf style’ etc. similar to X, which is what Doug wanted to do, initially, instead of what BtE became.

It’s interesting how the Beeb are now very much willing to bring back and push their old properties, League of Gentlemen, Partridge etc. (as they bloody should). You’ve got to wonder whether they would have been willing to bring back Dwarf in this current climate. Granted, there would be budget concerns… like with the new League specials, that seem to have been done on a crazy tight schedule and budget.

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> Is that all you’ve got to say?

He came.

Btw I love that Revenge of the Sith clip. It’s brilliant how you can see they freeze-frame Anakin’s eye separately to everything else and then do a single-frame cut, so it looks like natural eye movement. I wonder how many hours they spent on that shot alone?? o.o

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