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My Corgi Starbug has been treated like a right dog over the years and the legs have never snapped.

I have two, and the right front leg broke off of both of them within days. It seemed oddly specific.

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I’d settle for new Corgi diecast models of Red Dwarf in the original and Series X designs, and a Starbug with swept-back legs.

Because the legs on the original one will break off if you look at them wrong.

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I’ll give them credit, they at least shot it multi-camera like an audience show. Or looking multi-camera, anyway.

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Really? I had no idea canned laughter was ever more than a very rare thing after the ’80s, let alone being used for a popular modern sitcom like HIMYM. That seems so anachronistic.

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Nice of people to say it’s accurate but I don’t really see it. A couple of shots were surprisingly exact but most of the footage in the actual title sequence was yet unseen and pretty weird and interesting it was too.

It’s mostly the opening two being identical, that really stuck out. The moment I started Twentica I thought “wait, I’ve seen this before”.

I just think it’s surprising that we had already seen that much of the opening montage in the trailers. That wasn’t at all the case with X.

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Ripping my VII DVD and I notice the second laugh in Tikka to Ride (I always watched the extended version so I didn’t know), not fifteen seconds in, is that fucking awful stock laugh laughing at the fact that Lister has just picked up a camera.

I’m planning to do a fanedit of Tikka which would include replacing all the CGI with model shots, but it now occurs to me I can also mute that goddamn laugh by swapping in the audio from the extended over it any time it appears. Since it never laughs after an actual joke, I don’t need to worry about screwing up the real audience. Since it never laughs after an actual joke, you wonder what dumbass thought it should be there.

I’d love to interpolate too and restore the video look, but from what I’ve found researching the topic that’s going to be annoyingly complicated to do without having to purchase specialty software, if it’s even possible at all.

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This was scarily accurate.

Like seriously.

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Say what you will about the superfluousness of ’60s canned laughter, it was at least well put together. You couldn’t pick out individual reused laughs, at not in any of the shows I’ve ever seen.

I need to watch the deleted scenes from Series VIII again. I want to try to compare the audience reactions to the final, if that’s at all possible.

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I hope they write “XI” in chalk.

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That was a CG matte painting, not a location shot. Somebody didn’t watch the Making Of.

Dickishness aside, I agree with you. Unless they have something way better we haven’t seen, that Starbug shot would make the perfect first shot to the XI opening titles. Especially given the similar (but not as well composited) Blue Midget fly-by that began the titles of X.

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Oh my god, I just heard THAT LAUGH that started the topic in Balance of Power Remastered.

That proves it’s copy and paste canned.

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I have no idea how I fucked up the quoting that badly, but the edit function doesn’t work.

Now I’ll look stupid forever.

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…why would they take this awful laugh and copy and paste it over the places no one laughed, even following lines that aren’t even jokes in the first place? Across an entire 8 episode series, even? I figured it had to be a real audience member because the idea of someone choosing to add that terrible laugh in seems so fucking ridiculous to me.

Look at me, again being wrong for assuming competence.

I know the VII laughter had to be edited as not to drown out dialogue, but the idea of them sweetening it just feels wrong to me. It’s totally unnecessary. Red Dwarf is not an obnoxious American sitcom like The Big Bang Theory where the audience explodes into laughter at every other line, joke or not. The audience should not feel like an entity within the show forcing everyone to pause all the time. Only the especially funny jokes should do that.

That said, VIII’s over the top audience makes more sense to me if it’s sweetened.

The one woman yelling “Woo!” at the triple thick condom line in Emohawk is pretty embarrassing.

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My inkling is that the guest star from one of the set reports (sorry, I can’t remember which) who we’re supposed to know from both drama and comedy is Hugh Laurie. He’d be a great addition to the show.

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I’d love to see the painting the ship opening used in Twentica to introduce the new series. They could finally make this shot work the way they’d originally intended, and not using terrible CGI this time.

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I find YTPs extremely tedious, but I liked this.

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You’re either incredibly simple minded or you’re just not willing to accept that this is what a lot of people think about some of the latter episodes or Red Dwarf

I was saying that I think it’s very easy to judge the performances more harshly when you’re comparing it to the older episodes than you would if you’d never seen them. I never said that everybody does this, or refused to accept people can hate new Dwarf simply because they don’t enjoy it. Of course they can. None of this was intended to discredit anyone else’s opinion. I’m prone to comparing new episodes to the old in the same way.

I’ll remind you one more time that I LIKED series X for the most part, and I also LIKED the new trailer. All of it.

None of that was directed at you. I was speaking in general. I only quoted part of your post because you mentioned the idea of people expecting the show to be the same as it was 20 years ago and that’s what I was expanding on.

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But there’s a difference between saying “wish it weren’t pantomimey” and “these characters should act like they did 20 years and five seasons ago.”

I get the feeling a lot of people are so focused on wanting the show to be identical the the classics that they end up discounting a performance as “off” not because there’s anything wrong with it, but because it’s different.

For example, Homer Simpson’s voice is now very different from it was in 1993. Personally I much prefer his voice and performance from back then, but I’m not going to say the modern equivalent is inferior. It still feels like the same character, it’s just different. Furthermore, my love for the older performance is driven by the fact that not only have I been watching those episodes all my life, they’re also far funnier.

It’s easy to say you should do it this way, but isolating an overall performance outside the context of earlier episodes and judging it purely on its own merits is difficult. You can’t unsee the classics you’ve been watching for many years.

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At the very least I want the see the painting the ship pull out used in a promo. They finally have the technology to pull it off right. The Remastered version is the closest we have to the original vision of the shot, but we all know how shit that looks.

I mean this kind of close-up shot is EXACTLY the sort of thing then new bigature was built for; I can only hope they’re also using it to recreate the fly-over credits of series I-IV, but I haven’t been able to figure out yet if it has a top or is just the side of the ship.

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You know, Doug might be waiting until November because once Series XI airs everyone online will be posting reviews, going into what they think worked and what they think failed horribly. Perhaps he wants to work out how to improve on the show based on the most common criticisms of Series XI, and write XIII with them in mind.

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I don’t think the movie would be better off being released in another medium because it’s a film script, a format paced and written totally differently from a novel or comic. And if we did see Dwarf in either of those forms, I’d much rather it be something developed with the medium in mind.

For example, were Doug to write more novels I’d like to see original stories in an entirely new continuity from the originals since Last Human properly ended the series.

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It’s been years now, but I remember starting And Another Thing. I have a memory of reading the first few chapters, but then nothing. I guess I got bored? I don’t remember thinking to myself that I was bored with it. One day I just kind of didn’t read any further.

Glowing endorsement, right there.

That said, I will definitely listen to this. Considering that it’d only be six episodes, even if it’s not particularly good I’d probably stick with it just to see where it goes. There will at least be the novelty of getting more material with the radio cast, whom I love.

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I want there to be a US release. I’m way too broke to be spending my money on steelbooks, but I’d like the steelbooks to be available to me.

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Even if they no serve no actual purpose in any of the stories, just HAVING skutters around would make the show feel more like itself again.

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I want to replace my entire movie collection with steelbooks.

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Well if they took it down, that pretty much confirms it means something.

Incidentally, a search for “skutters” on Google yields a shitty 3D render I made like seven years ago using a model I didn’t make, and searching “Red Dwarf skutters” automatically corrects to “Red Dwarf scutters” because apparently nobody has ever seen the word written down before.

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I’m not normally this pedantic, but I see EVERYONE spell it wrong. It’s as if they never even picked up Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers.

Also, FUCK YES SKUTTERS MOTHER OF GOD I LOVE THOSE BROKEN PIECES OF SHIT

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“Skutter”.

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The Dwarfers time travel to the Titanic, have a lovely meal in the dining hall, and leave. Meanwhile, Taiwan Tony puts on a one-man show for the skutters.

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“Bigature” is a fucking stupid word.

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The rest of our loathes can be one giant, hedonistic flawsh flawfillment!

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I like it when Alphabet Man arches his nostrils.

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Someone to flawtch over meeeeee!

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While I admit the cracks in the show are becoming prominent by season 10 (and season 11 is actively collapsing under its own weight most of the time, especially in the godawful third act of “Saddlesore Galactica”), I didn’t tap out until 12 on my recent watch-through. Although maybe I’m being to lenient on them for feeling so much more like the classic era than the current season that I’ve been following merely the novelty of watching Simpsons episodes I’ve never seen before. Even if they’re rarely funny enough to be worth it. I’ve got nothing better to do, alright? Lay off.

Aaaaaaaand this is turning into a “when did the Simpsons stop being funny” debate. But then again those are a lot less clear cut than the same debate for Dwarf, since almost everyone can agree it crashed and burned after VII. Minus of course those who dislike VI for being too formulaic, but their opinions are bad and they should feel bad. (I’ll just state for the record here that I don’t think that that’s an unreasonable criticism, it’s just that with only six episodes it doesn’t last long enough to become repetitive in my opinion).

Now, the REAL Dwarf debate is whether it got good again, and if so in which season. This will become increasingly interesting to argue about as XI and XII come out.

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>Either way, I’m not convinced cartoonish CGI and library music really helps its cause.

But that wasn’t a library track, it was composed by Howard Goodall. It’s the same tune as the action sequence at the beginning of the episode.

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Series XI will be able to afford not one, but TWO disastrous model shoots before Doug has to step in.

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I’ll defend X adamantly considering how good it was even despite the fact that not only were two and a half of the episodes written at the last minute, all the others still had a far shorter scripting period than I think any show should have.

Kind of reminds me of how much better South Park used to be when they spent longer a week on each episode.

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Series XII Episode 2: “Smegerama Double-Posts”.

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Rimmer gets a Predator Drone for his birthday.

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Rimmer gets a Predator Drone for his birthday.

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Red Dwarf is blown up by Social Justice Simulants over Taiwan Tony’s voice.

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Come on guys, let’s just accept that if XI was going to happen there would’ve been news long ago. It’s time to let it go.

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If you ever do Back to Earth, make sure to remove the completely unnecessary CGI skutter pasted over that bunkroom scene.

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Or they could’ve twisted the crew resurrection angle into doing a series of effectively pre-accident Dwarf, albeit with Cat and Kryten present. That at least would have been an interesting retool.

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I’m a famous actress. I have a cold, but I assure you I am and I can vouch for Pescos.

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How many Blue Midget dance sequences will there be?

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Series XI opens with the reveal that Red Dwarf itself was actually projected by Rimmer’s light bee. Shortly after learning this, Taiwan Tony breaks up with Rimmer, who suffers a resentment attack causing the ship to vanish. Lister and the Cat, unable to breathe, swim to a nearby island. Then they are rescued by a passing GELF ship which takes them back to Hawaii.

In the following episode, Lister and the Cat meet a genie who grants them three wishes. The rest of the episode follows their adventures with the genie in Hawaii, which goes horribly wrong when the Cat repeatedly wishes for fish. All three wishes wasted, Lister is forced to turn the largest fish into a submarine. The rest of Series XI revolves around them driving the dead fish through the ocean, searching for Kryten while fighting off vicious head-hunters and Ernest Borgnine.

In the final episode, they find Kryten ship-wrecked on an island with Gilligan, who tags along back to Hawaii. In a shocking twist ending, they recover Rimmer’s light bee and power him back up along with Red Dwarf. The episode ends with Red Dwarf being commissioned as a cruise ship with Rimmer as captain, a set-up for the show to be retooled as the “Funtastic Arnold and Gilligan Hour” in Series XII.

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So I stumbled upon this thread and what the actual fuck?

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Check the link in the description.

It’s the first good 3D Starbug I’ve ever found available for download.

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Still waiting for G&T to do an April Fools article on RDXI being announced as “sort of a Back to Earth II, stylistically”.

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